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我们非常尊重和感激Benjamin Stevens（先生）在这一伟大【任务/使命】中所做出的巨大贡献，并十分珍视他的英译本，且这些英译本应该得到很好的保留！
There is no doubt that these English translations are FOOTSTONE of FIGU English information, precisely from which the updating work of English translations, which can now be found on FOM (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk), can carry out at a very high starting level, and this should be thanks to the great efforts of Benjamin Stevens and other excellent English translators.
毫无疑问，这些英译本是FIGU英文资讯的基石，正是源于它们，英文世界里的译文更新工作才能在一个很高的起点上开展，这应该感谢Benjamin Stevens和其他优秀的英文译者的伟大付出。
Thanks to Benjamin Stevens!
感谢Benjamin Stevens！
Thanks to all those who involved in this GREAT mission!
感谢所有参与到这一伟大【任务/使命】中来的伙伴！
Salome.
Salome.
- Thursday, February 3, 1983, 10:31 PM
Billy:
It has become late today. I already expected you during the day.
Quetzal:
1. Unfortunately, my work didn’t allow for an earlier appearance.
Billy:
You’re always busy.
Quetzal:
2. The concerns that I have to deal with concern a group member yet another time.
Billy:
Oh no, that’s something entirely new.
Quetzal:
3. One should have your humor, my friend.
4. Unfortunately, I have no other option than to deal with this decent concern.
5. Elsa gives us the greatest concerns because her whole mind has become destructive, whereby she grossly neglects her duties to the community and to the mission.
6. Up to the present hour, it was not yet possible that she could be used for her actual destiny in the mission, for a lot of her actions allowed no guarantee that she would fulfill this task.
7. Lately now, the prospects for such a guarantee deteriorate even more because her sense rapidly changes into a mission-hostile and community-hostile thinking.
8. Not in the least because she has not yet fought against and hasn’t removed her autocratic nature but rather carries this out in a more peculiar manner.
9. Furthermore, she has let herself become ensnared by the unreal influences of H. Glanzmann, with whom she stands today in closest contact and, more often than not, in the form of being together.
10. And in order to be able to do this, she is not in the habit of being honest to the group and to you but quite the opposite, for she tries to get around fulfilling her duty by simulating illnesses.
11. Recently, even an open refusal and rebellion now begin to work, for she no longer even follows my instructions.
12. Through this, she deliberately destroys the power ring of the meditation with the small pyramid, which can be built according to a certain scheme and can be preserved through this.
13. To my knowledge, you have made it known to her that a failure during the meditation means that two other extraordinary participations have to occur for this, which cannot be changed by me at present, even with the best intentions, because I just cannot revoke natural laws.
14. Through this, it will take effect that through the querulousness of Elsa, the power ring will slowly but surely be demolished, by what means the power of the pyramid and the meditations will slowly but surely become ineffective and even turn into negative force fields.
15. The whole thing will only be fully functional, then, if all group members meet their times of meditation with the small pyramid and also carry out the necessary extraordinary participation, which will entail a certain amount if a failure appears.
16. However, Elsa isn’t concerned about this, whereby she deliberately drives everything to destruction.
17. All this just because of her querulousness and as a result of the unreal influence of H. Glanzmann, who already long ago succumbed to the delusion that he is the embodiment of the ancient prophet Ezekiel.
Billy:
His crazy notion is well-known to me, already for more than two years. He also still believes that he has some contacts with other-dimensioned beings and powers.
Quetzal:
18. This acceptance is of a morbid imagination because he has deprived himself of these powers and opportunities by his wrong doing, such that he can never attain them in this life again.
Billy:
But that still doesn’t change the sad fact surrounding Elsi, who is influenced by him in such an unfortunate and wrong way.
Quetzal:
19. That is correct.
20. Moreover, she herself lives in the unreal delusion that she is capable of thinking and acting more rationally and more logically than we, who are millions of years ahead of your development.
21. She even has the nerve in her relevant madness to doubt and to disregard our explanations and insights and our instructions because she feels set above us in her quick and clever thinking and challenges our logic.
22. She even goes so far as to maintain against better knowledge that we would be subject to mistakes with regard to judgments and orders relating to the group members, etc., but this in no way corresponds to the truth.
23. We probably have our faults, even in her case, but not in terms of decisions and not in terms of wrong assessments of the truth.
24. Our fault always only lay in the fact that we were never able to understand and failed to recognize that the Earth person thinks untruthfully in his surface thinking, while other more profound thoughts are present.
25. In other words, this means that the Earth person usually maintains untrue thoughts in his surface thinking, which never correspond to truthful thoughts, and all this just to gain personal advantage through it.
26. And Elsa also belongs to this kind, as we unfortunately had to recognize.
27. So in truth, the failure does not lie with us but with the fallible Earth people.
28. Moreover, we ourselves only committed the mistake that we accepted the lies of the surface thoughts as the truth, whereby misjudgments came about.
29. But in truth, the fallible ones are the liars, thus, those who maintain untrue thoughts and send these out in order to gain personal profit through this.
30. This is a machination of very primitive and dirty value, which is, unfortunately, owned by Elsa, and because in this connection, she already felt herself caught many years ago, she raised her voice in order to deny the truth.
31. But that through this, she has even destroyed her own desires, which could have been fulfilled with certainty, she did not want and does not want to see and recognize.
32. Since then, her sense only lies at pushing all of the errors she has committed off of herself and onto others, in order to feel justified by this self-deception.
33. This is even a gross self-deception of the lowest negative value.
34. There could only be a change in her and this could only come about if she would reflect upon the truth and would act in accordance with it.
35. From our side, we can no longer agree, under the present circumstances, to be helpful to her through impulses, as we also can no longer do this in the future for other fallible group members.
36. Those who commit false actions will be excluded from our impulse vibrations in the future, so they will be released to the harmful vibrations of the environment and to the course of fate.
37. But this might mean serious harm for them.
38. On the one hand, as a result of being released from the positive impulse vibrations, they will be susceptible to health hazards, which will likely lead to serious problems and to an uneasy life.
39. This will also have a further impact on personal relationships, referring to other and intimate people, who will also lose our protection and will find a life with problems.
40. According to the explanation of the High Council, ultimately, it will yet so happen with the fallible ones, such being lawfully determined, that after the deaths of the fallible ones, their following lives will no longer be given to the area of knowledge and to fast-paced evolution; instead, they will arise in primitive people, who are still ignorant of the knowledge of spirit and who still count as primitive people among the people of this world.
41. Moreover, it should be possible that the following lives can, in full knowledge, be made fully aware of the present life and of the mistakes of the persons concerned, which were deliberately committed in malice, and this up to seven consecutive lives, without ever being given the opportunity of being able to leave the place of birth and, in the meantime, being able to arrive in civilized parts of the world.
42. However, the High Council still sees another possibility, namely that the fallible ones reflect upon the truth and love, so that after some following lives, they can be newly integrated into a community that is aware of the process of evolution, like the present one, through which a few truth-thinking ones are led and through which progress is made with them, by what means a certain part of the goal can still be achieved, and all necessary values can later follow from that.
Billy:
A very hard thing, I think.
Quetzal:
43. According to the explanation of the High Council, this law represents a real possibility that some day, the fallible ones can yet achieve their evolution.
44. But from my side, I would have to send the fallible ones to a desolate and uninhabited planet, where they would yet have to think for the rest of their lives about what can be done to get through their mistakes and culpability, in order, then, to lead a progressive existence in the following life and in all lives after that.
Billy:
You are rather angry, my friend.
Quetzal:
45. Thus, my words correspond to my utter seriousness.
46. But on the other hand, I see the explanation of the High Counsel as a good solution.
Billy:
And this, you would actually carry out?
Quetzal:
47. That is correct, and since this is very serious to me, all fallible ones, especially Elsa, would already experience this within an extremely short time.
48. All previous applications, reprimands, pleas, and penalties, etc. that were issued have never produced a lasting effect, from which it is to be concluded that everything is of no use.
49. Only firm action could still be really helpful, which is why I would follow the relevant advice of the High Council.
50. But unfortunately, such measures are, at least at present, not possible on the Earth.
Billy:
About that, I’ve already spoken many times with Engelbert and also searched for solutions, but we found none. On the other hand, I think that it is fairly common among certain people of the Earth that they behave themselves in such a ricocheting manner. And if I keep in mind what has sometimes happened in the past lives of many of these people and what prospects they had for this present life, before you recently looked after them, then I think that their lousy machinations are rather damn primitive and that dirty thanks are due for this. Especially when you now speak primarily of Elsi, I think that just she should be met with the greatest gratitude for your help and impulses, which have led her to a better life than what she herself has determined in life.
Quetzal:
51. That is correct; nevertheless, practically all of the fallible ones do not know that in their last or in several of their past lives, they lived as different personalities, who did not live according to their destinies to such an extent that their following lives necessarily had to be impaired by the impulses of their memory bank, and this led to degrading lifestyles.
52. But that their present existence has run within a good framework and that this has only happened through our assistance – because we made their old destinies breakthrough, from which they had maliciously departed – of this they know nothing.
53. Nevertheless, this fact would have had to become known to them, at least in part, when they had thoroughly striven within the intended and feasible framework of the mission, of the truth, and also of the teachings.
Billy:
So the whole thing, nevertheless, again leads to the fact that they themselves are responsible for their deeds and actions, even if the past commitments of their former lives are not known to them, and on the other hand, it’s that each person always only makes the best out of his present life, without knowing about his lives before. So it doesn’t matter whether they know what was in their previous lives, even though a few things may be of use. A wide variety of people are delirious of the fact that they had only acted evolutionary in the past life and led a good life, even though this often doesn’t correspond to the truth, such as with Mrs. Elsi, who lived in Germany before her present life and who came to an inglorious end there as another personality. Maybe it would be good if you would show the vital statistics of each group member in this connection if, perhaps, it would be helpful.
Quetzal:
54. We have had rather bad experiences with that.
55. But maybe a shock would be really helpful.
56. I will consider this important matter.
Billy:
Could you mention, nevertheless, the data of the last life of Mrs. Elsi?
Quetzal:
57. Tentatively, yes.
58. Nevertheless, I would like to limit myself to just the main points, specifically identifying the data that she can verify at any time.
59. But initially, a short explanation in advance is necessary:
60. Elsa’s true destiny, also in relation to the mission, is lost in her subconscious, and this has been the case for more than half a millennium.
61. Since then, she has only lived at the edge of these determinations in a form according to notion, whereby she gave preference to worldly pleasures and vices, however, in every one of her past lives as other personalities, which led in her last eight lives, without exception, to a violent end, which I will mention individually if I make up my mind to reveal these secrets to the group members.
62. In any case, the contents of her last eight lives always led to the fact that her life and her lifestyle were very negative and degenerate; thus, we had to use enforced non-violence for her present existence, in order to let her shape her life in a way that was positive in certain things.
63. Thus, her birth also took place at a place and in a family which were not originally determined by her but which we chose for her.
64. That you also played a certain role with her during childhood, this was also planned by us.
65. Through all of this, the events and developments so made their way, albeit with large hindrances, which led to that which had to bring success.
66. Nevertheless, this success was only short-lived, for as things stand today, this is well-known you.
67. But now, to come to speak on her last life, I need to explain this: her destiny, which was created at that time in connection with the present life, was rather vile, by which she would have sunk into extremely negative depths again.
68. And if I now mention the facts of the last life of hers, then even the most ignorant Earth person would understand what kind of life she would have had to expect as a present if someone wouldn’t have been helpful to her.
69. In her last life, Elsa bore the surname WENDT.
70. A name which she acquired by marrying a master carpenter.
71. Master carpenter Wendt and his wife, who was today’s Elsa in her former personality, lived in ROSTOCK after their marriage; there, her husband worked in his learned profession in his own workshop; meanwhile, his wife had to tend to the household.
72. She ran this household more poorly than rightly because her mind wasn’t set on manual labor but on self-glory, bossiness, and pleasure of a prohibited form.
73. Moreover, all of her thoughts and efforts were focused on a degenerated craving for recognition.
74. Burdened from her current life which had been brought forward, she ingratiated herself with a larger number of men and didn’t exactly remain loyal to her husband.
75. This also led to the fact that she approached her husband’s apprentice and maintained intimate relations with him.
76. But when this same one then met a young girl, he wanted to stay away from his master’s wife, who began to blackmail him, however.
77. The young fellow found no other way out in his desperation than to poison the master carpenter’s wife, his mistress, by what means she died a very painful death.
78. In order to divert the suspicion of the murder from himself, the apprentice falsely accused his master Wendt of the murder of his own wife, who was then sentenced to death by the wheel.
79. After that, the process against the innocent one lasted for seven years, after which then, too late, an acquittal was made.
80. The confession of the master carpenter, which was forced by torture, took place in the year of the murder of his wife, in the year 1835.
81. The apprentice was never punished because he was able to conceal his murderous act throughout his life.
Billy:
So now, you’ve said it all.
Quetzal:
82. You asked for it.
Billy:
Recently, I think that maybe it would be good, in spite of everything, if one and another group member knew something about the past of his former lives, even though I have had rather bad experiences with such things. Your information can surely be verified, right?
Quetzal:
83. That is correct.
84. If Elsa is interested in it, then it will be an ease for her to learn about the truth of my information.
85. The case of her former life in Rostock as the master carpenter’s wife, Mrs. Wendt, is stored under the year 1835 in the archives there.
Billy:
I don’t doubt that because I can still remember that time very well, when information was given to me about the man Arendt and the man Bertossi, also known as Ziehten, which was then clarified and confirmed by Guido via an attorney. Thus, I need no further evidence for this than what you have provided by your explanations.
Quetzal:
86. Then we have to lose no other words over this.
Billy:
Right; I would also be interested in something else, namely how it now stands with the radio. Is it now possible that via this, you could give a speech to all group members?
Quetzal:
87. We first have to clarify the technical possibilities because concerning this, there arise all kinds of unforeseen difficulties.
88. However, I will intensively strive with this in the next days and weeks, and in this case, you will also be needed repeatedly, in order to carry out the necessary attempts.
Billy:
I am always ready to serve.
Quetzal:
89. That, I also must say.
90. But now, my friend, I still have to give you another message, which will not please you.
91. It concerns advice from the High Council.
Billy:
What, the cuckoo, is that unpleasant, then?
Quetzal:
92. There is an important matter, which we ourselves have had to think about since time immemorial, but which has now been grasped by the High Council.
93. Since time immemorial, we have had some difficulties with regard to our neutrality towards all group members.
94. This in the sense that it has often been rather difficult for us to behave neutrally toward these Earth people.
95. Even we are only human, and even if everything was always just a one-sided affair, we feel just as humans do, so every single group member has grown into our feelings, which often made it rather difficult for us to make our decisions.
96. When defects arose in many of the group members, just because we were connected to our emotions, we often had great difficulties with regard to maintaining objective unity toward the fallible ones because we always wanted to be supportive of them.
97. So far, similar emotions, unfortunately, have only brought a few of the group members to us; moreover, in some of them, there is even actually a strong feeling of coldness that permanently prevails against us, and also against the group members and other Earth people.
98. Elsa belongs to the group members of this kind, as well as Jacobus and some others.
99. Nevertheless, from our side, the same loving thoughts and feelings of sensitivity also prevail toward these group members, which often gave us difficulties with our decisions, as I’ve already explained.
100. At the beginning of our contacts, things were different because we were too focused on pure logic and, thus, strongly neglected our feelings, but as a result of your teaching, we had to recognize that without these feelings, everything was different, incorrect, and too strict.
101. In accordance with your instruction, all of our people changed their relevant actions and conduct, and since that time, a lot has changed to our advantage.
102. But we have also had to recognize from these incidents that when a certain freedom of feelings is granted, many problems become larger, and from the resulting strong attachment to such freedoms of feelings, difficulties in terms of objectivity also appear, which are very often of a far-reaching nature and which can be inhibitive.
103. That is the main reason why we, against all reason and in spite of the frequent, very evil faults of the fallible group members, were always willing to resume the contacts and the mission, always with the hope that along with the false actions, insight would yet break through and that everything would take a turn for the better and, thus, take a large step towards the goal.
104. But now, concerning this, the High Council, with their advice, has turned to us, saying that we should withdraw ourselves, in order to hand our task over to other powers.
105. Should we actually decide for this, it would mean that we would already have to break off our contacts with you within a short time, after which those who were previously unknown to you would then provide you with the necessary information, but this would only be purely pertinent, without any personal touch, to arising problems with the group members, etc.
106. The reason for this advice, which is why this advice was given, is because we did not come to mention the renewed false actions of Elsa to the High Council, which caused them to give the advice just mentioned.
107. Taking from their advice, I must tell you that we should have called Elsa to account, which would have meant for her that she would have already led her life to an end in the month of July 1982, in accordance with her lifetime opportunity, but this was prevented by our manipulations, as a result of her fulfilling her intended mission, to which she committed herself.
108. But now, the breach of her promise has persuaded the High Council to give its advice towards the removal of impulse assistance, the discontinuance of the contacts, and the abandonment of the life control of the fallible ones, who can be reincarnated – up to seven consecutive lives among the people of the Earth, with the full memory of this life and of their committed mistakes and deeds – where they will have no opportunity at all of arriving into knowing civilizations or of making their way up to a higher position in the nation in which they are born.
109. Through this, during several lives, they will become aware of the awfulness of their wrong and malicious acts that were committed in your present life.
110. Thus, the fallible lives will then be of full thoughtfulness, due to their knowledge that their people will be thousands of years ahead of them, without these ignorant ones being able to come under this knowledge so that they may bring it to use.
111. If we explain this enforced non-violence, then we do not act against the existing laws because the laws of Creation themselves include such provisions, according to which these natural laws always begin to work whenever a human life form degenerates and threatens to destroy certain Creational goals.
112. If the following lives are then lived according to natural laws, then in each case, there is a reintegration into the old form, by what means the normal condition prevails once again, so the memories of the past lives only appear as a notion.
113. If, after such events, a life form again breaks out into degeneracy, then there is no elimination of the spirit form, as you well know, but a further rectified series of rebirths.
Billy:
Yes, I am informed of that. But I just think that not even this warning and fact enters into the skulls of those who would have to think carefully about this. Especially with Elsi, I see no hope because if she wants to be cleverer than you, as you say, then she is probably a hopeless case.
Quetzal:
114. That is correct because that is to be feared.
115. Unfortunately, her stubborn and autocratic sense – that her rather quick and clever thinking and her extremely weak power of decision are truly able to grasp the full significance of the forthcoming proceedings, with regard to recognizing the truth – must be doubted, just as much as the fact that she will free herself from her dogmatic and recognition-seeking megalomania and from her materialism which is depressing her.
Billy:
Yet one couldn’t do anything in order to teach her something better. Nevertheless, it would only be fair.
Quetzal:
116. We cannot and may not take this possibility into consideration because a relevant change to the truth can be and must only be accomplished by her.
117. However, her dogmatic, megalomaniacal, and materialistically oriented thinking certainly don’t allow for this.
118. Only a very tough calling to account can yet be helpful to her.
119. But just think of a person, even an Earth person, of whom the truth falls away, and of whom it must fall away, if he stands megalomaniacal over those instructive powers, who own the true logic and who are more advanced by millions of years in knowledge, recognition, ability, and in wisdom and love, and in the fulfillment of the creative laws and commandments.
120. Compared to us, Elsa is only an ignorant, tiny little thing, still nearly a newborn and ignorant person, who must first learn speech and thought in a laborious manner, while we already lead our lives in pure logic.
Billy:
I cannot describe your words as insane, and even less as arrogant; on the contrary, I think that you still immensely understate things and that you place your light and your people’s light under the footstool.
Quetzal:
121. It is very unfortunate that I must speak such words.
Billy:
Of course, I understand you already, and I am damn tired of this. But to speak of this further, it never accomplishes anything. One could never lead stupidity and primitiveness to the truth with the truth. But tell me how it would be if you leave and if others come.
Quetzal:
122. According to the given advice, any contact with you is supposed to be carried out by other powers, according to which the same contact person will never talk with you twice.
Billy:
That is bitter, my friend, even damn bitter.
Quetzal:
123. It is bitter, yes, but the final decision has not yet been made.
124. But anyhow, you or the group members should decide on whether this conversation between us should be transmitted in the form of contact reports.
Billy:
I would be very happy if I could conceal the sensitive areas during printing.
Quetzal:
125. That should be yours or the group member’s decision, whereby your word must take priority in all cases.
Billy:
I will think about it.
Quetzal:
126. You should do that.
127. What I still have to tell you further is that we will leave the Earth before the end of this month for about three months, in order to devote ourselves to a study and an evaluation with respect to all group members, whereby we will have to work through a lot of material, which we’ve recently made and recorded over all group members.
128. Taljda (= one who walks through the rainbow), who you know very well, along with various others, will maintain contacts with you in the meantime and make the necessary decisions on my behalf.
129. However, you and all group members must be aware of the fact that Taljda is very strict and won’t muck around for too long if any demands or arrangements are ignored or violated.
130. We, too, who have stood in contact with you until now, will have to act in this manner in the future.
131. Thus, it must now be clear to you and the group members that further violations will no longer be tolerated but that only a strict compliance with our instructions, as well as with the provisions and ordinal rules issued by you, is acceptable in every sense and in every respect.
132. Taljda, as my representative, will explain all that is necessary with your next meeting on the 5th of March, after which the strict rule then applies, that piece by piece, you expropriate everything which you have received from us or which has been awarded.
133. A smallest violation, whether it is carried out now or whether only an attempt is made, has as a consequence that a piece of property or a promise given by us to you will be taken back by us in each case.
134. Now, in the future, if we give you three options of further assistance from us – that firstly, we speak with you in the coming time over the radio communication devices to all group members – secondly, we deliver spirit teaching material over the sound recorders – and thirdly, we answer the personal and individual questions of the group members in a separate form over the sound recording equipment, then these promises will be gradually canceled and waived with each small violation of a measure issued by us, be it regulation or ordinal rule, and also in every case of a breach of regulation or ordinal rule, etc. issued by you, which is to serve for discipline and order, as well as for the mission.
135. Violations of a conscious form are to be considered by us, as well as violations that result from not listening and then a lack of understanding coming about from it, but this also applies to such violations that arise due to misunderstandings.
136. All upper violations of this kind must be raised to every single group member at the present time, after all the learning and experiences, so that it no longer must be discussed, and no more forbearance can be practiced towards these.
137. After our oral speech on the 5th of March, no more forbearance will be practiced, not even towards the smallest offenses.
138. Only false actions due to ignorance or understandable carelessness and the like can still be treated in forbearance, but no more violations that would have to be repaired for years.
139. And I state once again that for each violation of the aforementioned form, a piece of property given by us to you will be taken back, and the initial gifts to be taken back are to be those which we give as the last, namely the three promises related to communication, the teachings of spirit, and personal questions.
140. Should that also be useless, then the next step is the removal of the protection for the SOHAR center and, after that, the power effect there, according to which the neutralization location in the lower area will be released from their power.
141. If even that was of no use, then the same would occur with the circle-meditation pyramid, after whi…
Billy:
But you can’t do this because through this, you would take from all group members the only possibility of the evolution of a truer form.
Quetzal:
142. We will do it; that is decided.
143. No change is possible.
144. At once, all group members must grow up and also must insert themselves into a discipline, which alone will guarantee that the goals are finally reached and the mission comes to its fulfillment.
145. Unfortunately, it is still so, and this is the case with all group members, that it has not been recognized that just a certain order and compliance and the realization of a particular discipline can bring about success.
146. Still, all group members are of the crazy notion that violations may occur out of forgetfulness, for after all, they are only Earth people, who are still in need of instruction and to whom forbearance should be exercised.
147. This is a very erroneous view, and particularly those group members, who had to perform military services and duties, should already be beyond this.
148. Just with them, and especially with them, insight and knowledge should have already matured long ago, such that in their private lives and especially in your group, a success and existence can be given, if the points of the ordinances, regulations, ordinal rules, and discipline, etc. are followed and kept, as it is also the case with the military services, where any small violation of every form is very strictly avenged and punished.
149. But it isn’t remembered by those – who know a lot in these matters and who know this very well, as a result of their knowledge from the army services – that without the observance of the given order, everything would only correspond to one “wild heap of indiscipline,” if I may speak again in your mode of expression.
150. Just as it behaves in the army, so it behaves in every organization, in every school, and even in nursery schools; although, it behaves admirably in the latter, regarding those issues that must be constantly complained of with the group members.
151. In the kindergarten schools, there are small children, compared to whom the group members fully see themselves as adults, which, therefore, raises the question as to whether the group members are actually as mature as they would happily like to be.
152. Thus, you will now certainly be able to understand that we cannot tolerate the old-standing evils furthermore, which is why we must take measures, which are very well seen as disciplinary actions against violations.
153. If the opportunity was given to us to punish offenses of the Earth people according to our measures, in terms of law and order, then we would send the fallible ones to places and for times, which would certainly lead all fallible ones to reason and to the right and united, positive action.
154. On the other hand, we also have our ordinal rules, regulations, and arrangements, which we have to follow in solidarity and according to our best ability, fortune, and knowledge, without which we would have never reached the state of our current life, knowledge, love, insight, progress, and so on.
155. Only with us, there was a time when the way of life and the future was decided by the entire people and by our former leaders, such that from the moment of the decision, every life form actually strove, consciously and to the utmost, to follow and keep the given guidelines, ordinances, and regulations, etc., even though there were still many at that time who were of the same mistaken view as the group members of today.
156. Thus, it happened that fewer than 620 people had to be called to account for wrongdoing and had to be put out, even though our population comprised more than 238 million at that time.
157. If we wanted to implement this with the Earth people, then in any case, it could and would have to be that within a fraction of a second after a decision, an offense never occurs again.
Billy:
However, one always appeals to the right to make mistakes.
Quetzal:
158. A right never exists for violations of already adopted decisions.
159. Mistakes can and may only be committed where there is still no knowledge and no experience.
160. Also, keep in mind when you, for example, committed offenses against the regulations, etc., which are very well known to you.
161. How you could still fulfill your task, work, and mission in such a case!
162. Because such actions are not owned by you and you are always careful to be progressive, you continuously follow the law of efforts, namely that all becomes better.
163. That is also the reason why you continuously address us with new ideas and desires, through which assistance for the group members should develop from our side, such as your efforts to ensure that we should speak in audible form to the group members and give them the teachings of the spirit in a similar manner and also stand with them on personal matters and answer their questions.
164. And after more than 3 years, during which you even often excited us again and again with this strange request, we, nevertheless, decided on this step, while no group member ever knew or knows what the hard efforts on your side are in each case when we get involved in things that we have basically never thought of.
165. And truly, no group member has ever kept in mind that everything we have done so far for some or all of the group members was due simply and solely to your untiring initiative and perseverance because we never would have done these things on our own.
166. But you were always so modest in never letting it be announced that everything was only done due to your tireless efforts toward us, from the protection of and the donating of power to the SOHAR center, to the impulses that should be helpful to everyone, if at the same time, we disregard those impulses that we have contributed before and since the births of all group members.
167. But for a long time, we’ve been depressed and feel an ache inside ourselves, that all of these efforts are neither respected nor recognized, which you have undertaken for years for all group members, and that they are even ignored and then thanked by the fact that there continues to be violations of all kinds and that all real success and progress are prevented.
Billy:
You express too much praise, my friend.
Quetzal:
168. That is not so, for the group members should finally be aware of who is the real initiator of all those values, which we handed over to the individual or all group members in the course of the last years.
Billy:
You talk too much.
Quetzal:
169. But in accordance with your sense, it is certainly the truth that I cannot find enough words to emphasize your relevant merit sufficiently, in order to ensure that the full truth is understood by all those people who, in many cases, almost completely destroy your hard work over and over again.
170. The true victim is you, who strives year after year toward progress and success and for privileges for all group members, who then reward you for this with offenses and rainfalls and neglect of true learning efforts.
Billy:
Do stop, at last. Your flattery is slowly getting on my nerves, and besides, it only makes me out to be a megalomaniac.
Quetzal:
171. Your jokes find no attention in me; on the other hand, I also find no other words to speak further of that.
Billy:
Then we can finally take up a subject that is more reasonable than pointless adulation. On my side, I would still have a lot of questions that have already long burned on my tongue.
Quetzal:
172. You can include those at a later time because for the time being, I still have different concerns, which I must discuss with you now.
Billy:
Hopefully, they are lesser in the form as the previous cases.
Quetzal:
173. There, you can be reassured.
Billy:
Fine, then you can fire away at me.
Quetzal:
174. Even though things do not correspond to the context of the preceding, there are still some dark points to be addressed.
Billy:
And I thought that this now would have actually come to an end for today.
Quetzal:
175. The forms which are of a dark form, which are still to be explained, are of a more problematic nature.
Billy:
Aha, then no further complaints.
Quetzal:
176. That is correct.
Billy:
Then get cracking at once.
Quetzal:
177. Even though it doesn’t concern any complaints, the concerns to be mentioned are still unpleasant.
178. As you know, during the last weeks, we performed analyses and made clarifications over every single group member, in order to be able to meet our task with respect to talking and answering if personal questions are addressed to us over the communication devices, as you want.
179. During these analyses, we strove to fathom even the innermost self of each individual group member, but we must explain this to you without it coming to the knowledge of all group members, for things came to light which cannot yet be mentioned in an open form but rather in twenty years at the earliest, due to fears which are to be cultivated, that quarrels and accusations among all members of the group might appear.
180. The things that were uncovered range from the simple lie to the heavy theft of relatively large sums of money.
181. But through our analyses, we were able to understand various mysterious incidents which, now that we know the facts, are no longer mysterious in any way but are only infamous intrigues of individual group members or others who are not directly connected to the group.
182. Nevertheless, the fact that we endeavored to perform analyses, even where it was not permitted to us until now because we found no authorization for it – but which was wrong, as we now recognize – it has given us insight into things which give us true terror.
183. Never before have we felt entitled to suppose that in the deepest feelings and thoughts of the Earth people, and also in various group members, so much falsehood, infamy, addiction to intrigue, lies, and selfishness prevails, as we’ve determined through our analyses.
184. But through this, it became clear to us as to why various group members have not yet recognized true freedom up to this day and that they didn’t create this within themselves and, thus, do not live according to this afterward, but I would like to talk with you about that later.
185. First, I would like to give you an example regarding our analyses, which they have yielded in detail.
186. I would like to come to speak of a person who no longer lives with you but who was excluded, yet who continues to give us and you problems.
187. I refer here to Ferdinand Pfeiffenberger, whose children should come under your care and under your supervision, which would only be possible, however, if Ingrid and Ferdinand could be received into the group again, which is not evident, nevertheless.
188. This cannot be, for renewed discord would be caused by the two.
189. But listen to what I determined from the analyses regarding Ferdinand, for example:
190. Twice, you spoke to me of the fact that with the rabbit stable, the doors had been opened and the rabbits had escaped because someone had been messing around there illegally.
191. My analyses clearly showed that this happened at Ferdinand’s expense, as well as various other things that were inexplicable to you.
192. The swan, of which you reported to me that it had escaped, also came to escape from the poultry yard by Ferdinand’s hand, as he also ventured to rob several chickens of their lives by squeezing their necks until they suffocated.
193. But he also acted in such a way with a duck.
194. But that is not yet enough because other evils have arisen in even greater numbers than you yourself can imagine.
195. You can still remember that with you, within a very short time, all cats had disappeared, about which we also felt no sadness but were of the opinion that the problems had been solved.
196. With us, that’s actually how it was for so long, until I discovered through the analyses of Ferdinand that two of the animals did not depart from the center in the way that we had assumed.
197. A white cat – you named the animal “Molly” – was so beaten by Ferdinand, while being tied up in a sack, that after its release, it escaped while groaning and sought refuge elsewhere with other people.
198. Similarly, Ferdinand abused a second animal, which he struck unconscious, in order then to run it over repeatedly with his red vehicle, after which he then threw the dead animal to that place where you found it.
Billy:
That guy should also be abused once. And “Peepers,” the red cat?
Quetzal:
199. It is still in the vicinity of the center – running wild.
200. But that has nothing to do with animal abuse.
201. The real savagery resulted because of a fox that was clashing with the cat.
Billy:
You have spoken of the fact that Ferdinand has committed even other misdeeds.
Internal group affairs of the crudest kind:
Ferdinand’s misconduct in relation to the abuse of animals; marriage-destructive machinations by Billy’s wife, as well as crass financial irregularities toward Billy and the whole group by her; betrayal to the outside by Billy’s wife, who passed along tape recordings of the interests of the core group meetings to outsiders, in order to inflict harm upon Billy and the group; equally dangerous assaults on Billy’s life with knifes, a hatchet-hammer, scissors, and other objects, as well as murderous threats against him; defamations and denigrations against Billy by his wife toward group members and outsiders, etc., etc.
Billy:
Then fire away at once, my friend.
Quetzal:
202. Toward the end of the month of March, the procedure of shifting the time forward, which is incomprehensible to us and which is also carried out by the people of Switzerland, takes place once again.
203. This incomprehensible procedure is designated as daylight-savings time, which disturbs and interferes with the normal and established rhythms.
204. At the same time, it is in no way beneficial that through this daylight-savings time, people must begin their labor an hour earlier than usual, so that by this incomprehensible stupidity, already established rhythms and times are seriously impaired, whereby interferences appear that cannot be removed.
205. With you, for example, the meditations are so disturbed, partly because the time is shifted, whereby the normal rhythm is impaired, and partly because all of our monitoring and impulse devices are set for existing, specified times, and we simply cannot change them in their time functions because they are aligned toward the true, effective solar time.
Billy:
But last year, that was not yet the case, right?
Quetzal:
206. That is correct.
207. The reason why it is regulated in such a way now is because we took into consideration a further assistance for all group members, which consists of a fixed time meditation, determined in accordance with the most valuable times of solar time.
208. At the established times, all necessary forces are at their highest potential, which is why we selected these times.
209. But if, now, the stupidity of daylight-savings time becomes effective again, then everything is destroyed, with the efforts of the meditation becoming meaningless, powerless, and useless.
Billy:
Idiotic – I mean with the daylight-savings time. If the people would think a little more logically and cleverly, then this daylight-savings time wouldn’t be necessary at all. The simplest thing would be to say that during the whole year, early morning work doesn’t start at 7:00 AM but rather at 6:00 AM. Thus, no daylight-savings time would have to be introduced, so that in the evening, there could be one more hour of leisure time. In addition, throughout the whole year, the end of work in the evening would always be at 4:00 PM, which would give the people even other advantages. But for people to think so far and find reasonable solutions, that is asking too much. Yet I think that what you can do with your people on Erra, that should also be good and cheap for the people of the Earth. Just the fact that you do a lot of regular duty work on Erra between the sixth and eighth hour of the morning and after that, you can leave and do what you want, I have found that to be very fine and reasonable, and I just ask myself why this reasonable solution cannot be handled in such a way on the Earth as well. Here on Earth, I’ve only seen this system handled in such a way one time, with Director Demuth, where it worked out wonderfully.
Quetzal:
210. That is well-known to me; you also spoke of this on Erra, when we talked about this problem.
Billy:
How would it be if we would simply disregard daylight-savings time, with respect to the meditation, and would retain the old time in the sense that we, in accordance with daylight-savings time, simply shift the meditations an hour ahead? We allow the relevant clocks of importance to run for us in such a way as they run now, and according to these clocks, we honor our commitments.
Quetzal:
211. That is a very good idea, and it is even the solution to the problem.
212. I also should have thought of that.
Billy:
And now you have. Then this would be right?
Quetzal:
213. If these concerns are handled in such a way, then all values will remain in full within the given framework.
214. Your solution is of absolutely full value.
Billy:
Then we should still see to it that we also find better solutions with regard to our work to be performed and with regard to the evening meal, for when the time comes for changes, I must talk about that with Engelbert. My suggestion is that we fix dinner from 5:45 PM to 6:15 PM, in order to work after that until 8:45 PM, after which, on the days of meditation, the group meditation can then take place. On the other days, the days off – like Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday – the same time applies concerning the meal, and after that, if necessary, one can work for no longer than until 8:45 PM. Also on Sundays, we have to work again, so something also has to be done there. The meditation on Sundays would be at 4:00 PM and on weekdays at 9:00 PM. Also, the individual meditations taking place in the SOHAR center would have to be kept, of course, according to the old times.
Quetzal:
215. I have also thought of similar decisions, but yours are more precise, so I will instruct that these must be carried out.
216. The start of this should be one day before the effective beginning of daylight-savings time.
217. That would be, according to my knowledge, on the 26th of March.
218. In addition, I still have to explain the following:
219. Together with you, we calculated that as of the 1st of January 1985, the financial situation and the labor force of the whole group must have progressed so far that those who are working abroad can be fully employed, as of this date, in the center.
220. But this stipulates that full employment is carried out by every single group member and that all necessary reforms are developed, only by which earnings can be guaranteed in the center.
221. But if one continues in the old and present way, then this goal cannot be reached.
222. The group members must increasingly be prepared for employment and to work more intensively, more rationally, as well as more joyfully.
223. Silvano, for example, lately diminishes in his achievements enormously, and his lethargic way of working has erupted again in full measure.
224. So for works that require 25 minutes of time to complete, he needs a full 3 to 3 1/2 hours, as I have determined.
225. In addition, if the weather isn’t exactly sunny, then he drags out this time even more in length.
226. If this behavior and others do not stand under the minimum level of achievement immediately, then it is necessary that he be replaced by another force, which Taljda will arrange, who will act as my representative until mid-year.
227. She has been instructed by me to observe these things until the end of April and, if necessary, make new decisions.
228. Also with Thomas, more attention must be given to employment because he shows too much consideration in himself, as this is also the case with Freddy.
229. They do not see occurring works, let alone the possibility of independently settling such works through self-initiative.
230. In addition, Thomas puts too much emphasis on his physical disadvantages, and through this, evils appear.
231. He should strongly consider this.
232. Louis works according to his abilities very well, but he always tends toward the possibility of appearing for duty at a much later time than what was arranged by me.
233. The danger that he will soon return to his every day life with this is already very great again.
234. Also, Sissi must increasingly fulfill her responsibilities, and starting from the month of May, it also applies to her that every month, she has to appear at each regular or irregular meeting, in the latter case if it is necessary.
235. Nevertheless, she must comply with the statutory-given monthly meetings.
236. In the future, this applies to everyone – even to new members.
237. Margaret can be left as the only valid exception, whose precarious financial situation is known to us.
238. Also, Maria and Conny, starting from the month of April, must be increasingly used more intensively for teamwork, but also all others, for only through this can the necessary occurring works be done, which should lead to the goal.
239. Taljda, according to my instructions, will deal with who has to perform what works and at what times.
240. At the end of the month of March or at the beginning of the month of April, she will remit the instructions relating to this, whereby all group members must be clear about the fact that Taljda is neither inconsistent nor able to be influenced in any things, so her instructions must be strictly followed; otherwise, she will relentlessly and consistently uphold and carry out the sanctions, which are provided in case of infringements.
Billy:
Somewhat military-like, but I think that discipline, etc. is necessary. Even in the civil defense, there is more order in this respect than what is often the case with us.
Quetzal:
241. That is correct, even though our view is that this civil service mentioned by you represents an imposition for the Earth people, and it is incomprehensible to us how grown people can take part in such senseless and silly gimmicks, which also eat up a lot of financial resources, which could truly find better use toward emergency relief on the Earth.
Billy:
Your word in the ear of all those who childishly devise and carry out this crap, which doesn’t apply to the military itself.
Quetzal:
242. Even if they could hear my words, their thoughts and aspirations wouldn’t change the people who are responsible anyways because in their thoughts and actions, they are primitive, stupid, and childish.
Billy:
To whom you say this.
Quetzal:
243. I know, my friend, but we should now talk about other things because we cannot argue all night over these issues.
Billy:
Of course.
Quetzal:
244. When I explained the last predictions to you, we dealt with the thought as to whether such predictions will finally be useful or not.
245. Since then, I have striven to make various analyses over this, which have shown that with a small percentage of Earth people, such predictions fall on rather fertile ground, whereby the majority of terrestrial mankind probably takes note of them; however, no consideration is given to these, so no success of a deliberate change to the better is to be expected with the majority.
246. But the smaller percentage, which does take on the predictions and generates some form of positive change within itself, might be of value, so we will continue to deliver such predictions.
Billy:
That is gratifying. Then you do want this…?
Quetzal:
247. That is correct.
Billy:
I thought that so far, if already, this should first be in March.
Quetzal:
248. Up to the month of March of this year, I have given you such predictions.
249. But for the following time after that, you will have no further information from my side.
Billy:
I remember that, but I thought that you, if even already, would first give me new data in March.
Quetzal:
250. As I have told you before, I leave the Earth for several months.
251. For this reason, I am not here in the month of March, which is why I could not pass along any predictions to you.
Billy:
Excuse me; I am rather slow on the uptake.
Quetzal:
252. At the moment, you didn’t think of my words, which said to you that I will be absent.
Billy:
In addition, I can now also say: that is correct.
Quetzal:
253. That is correct.
Billy:
Exactly, so I thought myself. It could not have been otherwise.
Quetzal:
254. Many people have certain phrases, and so do I.
Billy:
Sure, that is correct, but too much already gets boring.
Quetzal:
255. It must also be fun.
Billy:
If not, then I would, at most, already be stale. But go on, already.
Quetzal:
256. So I ended with the predictions in the month of March, 1983.
257. If I now continue on from there with the explanations, then I must mention some events that will happen in Israel.
258. There, the mass murderer Begin will finally be restricted in his power because a new Prime Minister, a bad opponent of Begin, will take power.
259. Thus, Begin finally falls behind and loses much of his power.
260. Afterward, then, first comes the appearance of natural phenomena again, which will be talked about world-wide, and which, unfortunately, must be lamented over with the loss of human lives.
261. Around the turning point of March/April, so in less than a month, the Mount Etna volcano in Sicily will again eject large quantities of its red-hot interior and will cause much damage, after which then, only a few days later, an earthquake is expected in the country of Colombia, which will demand up to a thousand human lives and at least the total destruction of half of the city of Papayan.
Billy:
These earthquakes will probably never end, and people also won’t become smarter as a result.
Quetzal:
262. That is correct.
Billy:
I’ve wondered for a long time, how our own people, the group members, actually react to these events and, above all, how they react to the fact that you can always predict everything so very well. Do you have any knowledge in this respect?
Quetzal:
263. At times, I have performed analyses over that, whereby I have also encountered facts that are of a rather unpleasant nature.
264. But in general, the group members are impressed.
Billy:
And what is unpleasant?
Quetzal:
265. Actually, a blatant unpleasantness only exists in one case.
Billy:
Must I individually draw out the answers from you again?
Quetzal:
266. You yourself might know with whom this unpleasantness appears, namely with Elsa.
267. Neither the predictions nor the fact of the respective incoming events impresses her greatly.
268. Already for too long, her thinking, feeling, and acting have been away from the fulfillment of the mission and from the truth, that she could still see clearly in these concerns.
269. She has very much alienated herself from everything, and particularly from the truth, because she only sees herself, and she egoistically and dogmatically overrates her own identity and her own interests.
270. Her seeing eye has become blind, both through her selfishness and also through outside influences, whereby former group members have a decisive influence.
271. In addition, her knowledge of the truth has so deteriorated and degenerated that she can no longer recognize even the smallest truths for many years and even questions our existence.
272. Already for some time, her erring and incorrect thoughts have been dealing with ideas that you would act as a swindler in relation to us and our existence and that we would merely be the figment of your imagination.
273. But to respond to her about this would be pointless of you because she has already so entangled herself in a web of lies that she would deny this fact by all means.
274. She does not let the truth of her severe and morbid addiction to dogmatism, self-pity, ambition, and all other evils that have erupted be valid any more, which is why she wants to cover each truth with untruths by all means, and it has already been like this so often that she even believes her own false claims and untruths.
275. I determined this fact at that time when we first performed analyses for every single group member, which Elsa designated as wrong in her case, in a way that was dogmatic and insulting to us and as though it had been taken from the air, whereby she still scurrilously swore at us, particularly at Ptaah and me.
276. As I told you at that time, we were compelled by this to discontinue some forms of impulses, which had been emitted toward Elsa since her birth.
277. In the absence of these impulses, she got ever more tangled up, and she deviated from her determinations and their fulfillment more and more.
278. And now that she has become even more alienated to everything in malicious ways, I am forced to stop other forms of impulses, whereby her initiative and concentration in her private life and with regard to her private work as a sewing teacher will decrease and rapidly decline, by what means a mental and physical decay will also take place, but this will occur at a very slow pace.
279. Thus, it is given that she escapes from our protection, as well as from her group membership, and that naturally, she lives against her own death determination, which we had influenced and canceled through our impulses, so that she could fulfill her task and could still have a long time to learn.
280. But under the given circumstances, with her wrong and contentious doing, thinking, and acting, we see no reason not to surrender her to her own, self-destructive destiny, uninfluenced by us, by what means she maneuvers herself into her own ruin and offside.
281. As a result of the renewed discontinuances of impulses, everything with her will have so worsened in a month that she will flow into a state of counter-defenseless helplessness, which she can no longer work herself out of, and she will long for relief.
282. This, if she does not deliberate herself to the better and if she doesn’t return to the truth and to the fulfillment of her duties in reference to the mission and responsibility, which if she does, we are prepared to let all impulses act upon her again, by what means everything would turn to the good for her again, and she would learn far beyond her own life goal determination.
Billy:
So you would help her again, if she would deliberate herself and would return to the right path?
Quetzal:
283. That is correct, for on the one hand, she has determined certain tasks for herself for the fulfillment of the mission, and on the other hand, we have invested so much work in Elsa, already for decades, and especially during her immediate life, such that we could only be pleased if she would be converted back to the truth.
Billy:
Perhaps it would be good if it was revealed to her what her former personalities and lives really were and that these were often not good, by any means, in large numbers. Furthermore, in relation to this, one should put down the madness in reference to me because over and over again, some deceased ones are requisitioned, whom I was supposed to have been in former lives. Presently, and already for some time, one imputes to me that I was once Karl Marx and Nostradamus.
Quetzal:
284. That is well-known to me, and slowly, this stupid gossip must become rather annoying to you.
Billy:
That it does, and especially because I know that these presumptions are not correct.
Quetzal:
285. These concerns should not disturb you any further because Eva will strive around this matter, in order to give you some data about your past lives.
286. She has long been occupied with this, and I will also send her the appropriate impulses.
287. She can call her previous knowledge without hesitation, according to which a few things will smooth themselves out.
288. Concerning Elsa and the other group members, we are working to gather the data, but it is questionable, at least at present, whether more is supposed to be mentioned with respect to Elsa.
289. The experiences with her in regards to these issues are, unfortunately, very negative.
Billy:
I know that – unfortunately.
Quetzal:
290. Thus, we will first have to hold council over that.
Billy:
Then we’ll just see what results from the council.
Quetzal:
291. That is correct.
Billy:
Once again – yes.
Quetzal:
292. But now, we should have spoken enough of these concerns because even though they are of importance, we may not announce too much – at least not yet.
293. On the other hand, I have to tell you other things, from which we have deviated again.
Billy:
Right, go on then.
Quetzal:
294. If you really have no more questions?
Billy:
I always have questions.
Quetzal:
295. It also can’t be otherwise with you; what question do you still have?
Billy:
Something completely different, namely with respect to the Moon. Up there, there is a myriad of craters, such as also on Mercury or on other SOL planets and satellites. It makes me wonder now as to when the last big meteor impact took place on Earth’s satellite, how big the projectile was, and where this occurred on our moon.
Quetzal:
296. The last great impact was made by a meteorite in the year 1178, during the time of the New Moon, and the impact happened on the upper eastern quarter of the Moon.
297. The origin of the meteorite, as it was held at that time by our ancestors, lay in the asteroid belt that runs its course around the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
298. The investigations at that time showed that in the year 408 B.C., for reasons that are inexplicable to us, a meteorite measuring 1,728 meters in diameter separated from the asteroid belt, entered into a staggering periphery course around the Sun, and ever more approached the Earth.
299. In the year A.D. 1178, it was then so far along on its direct course with Earth’s satellite that it fell on the surface of the Moon, close to the light border that is visible from the Earth.
300. As a result of this, there was an enormous explosion which hurled light waves and rocks so high above the lunar surface that the impact could even be observed from the Earth by the naked eye.
Billy:
Then it must have been really huge, nevertheless.
Quetzal:
301. So it was; that is correct.
Billy:
Could you, perhaps, give me even more information concerning such things?
Quetzal:
302. That can be the case, also with respect to other incidents that interest you.
Billy:
Good, then I will come back to that at a later time.
Quetzal:
303. That you should, but now, I would like to tell you of other things to come.
304. Regarding natural disasters and major political events, there is nothing to report, at least until the middle of the year 1983.
305. Earthquakes will likely occur in different countries, such as in California, where particularly San Francisco will be bereaved.
306. Floods and droughts will also become a talking point, but they are largely not worth mentioning, just like the unusual great activity of the volcano Etna in Sicily, whose lava flows are to be rerouted by human hands.
307. Also, two large storm floods in America and elsewhere are hardly worth mentioning.
308. But what is worth mentioning is the AIDS disease, which will very quickly spread itself starting from 1983 and will demand many victims.
309. This disease is brought in from America to Europe, and already by mid-year, it will claim many deaths – even in your home country, Switzerland.
Billy:
I have already heard different things about this scourge, but I think everything is trivialized in order not to frighten the population. In addition, it concerns a disease of degeneration, which was created in basic form by degenerated sodomy-homosexuals.
Quetzal:
310. That is basically correct, but it only indicates a small part of the truth.
311. According to our preliminary findings, this disease epidemic that is still incurable for the Earth person, which is not unknown to us, is the product of a virus that is disfigured and mutated by force, which completely paralyzes and even destroys the human body’s self-defense system, which must inevitably lead to death, even in cases of only minor sicknesses or injuries.
312. The Earth people themselves bear the guilt for this deadly disease, namely the unnatural ones, referring to those who are sexually unnatural, whose actions are incomprehensibly endured, tolerated, or even supported by many Earth people.
Billy:
With this, you address the sodomitic, degenerate homosexuals and bisexuals.
Quetzal:
313. That is correct; in addition, the sodomitic, degenerate, bisexual men also actually belong to this.
314. Both are equivalent to a breach of natural law, which will inevitably lead to serious consequences and even death because what is natural cannot be ignored, disturbed, and avoided throughout many millenniums without this avenging itself one day.
315. Normal homosexuality and normal bisexuality are naturally against nature, but they are not reprehensible and they do not violate natural law, just as bisexual and homosexual relations among female life forms are not abnormal and are not unlawful.
Billy:
The reason is well-known to me, and I have also described that in detail in my writings; thus, at least for those who know, there can be no doubt that homosexuality is naturally against nature as well as genetically conditioned and that it is not unlawful, as also the lesbian uniting of female forms is not unnatural.
Quetzal:
316. That is well-known to me, but now, hear what origin this disease epidemic has:
317. Basically, it was caused by the sodomitic, degenerate unnaturalness of homosexual and bisexual men, who got together and pursued sexual machinations with animals; thus, they gave themselves over to sodomy.
318. In particular, the disease was caused by the self-coming together of different active substances that are only carried in simian life forms, which could unite themselves to those humans through the disgusting sexual sodomizing of men.
319. In and of itself, the resulting transmitted and already very old and dangerous disease would have still been curable by earthly medicine, but because the sodomites sexually erred among the homosexuals and bisexuals, the disease pathogen changed in such a way that it became an absolutely fatal factor, against which the medicines and means of defense must now be found and be produced.
320. However, it is to be feared that these medicines will only be found when the epidemic already runs rampant world-wide, which can lead to similar events like at the time of the plague, which was also able to claim many victims through the guilt of the people, for they…
Billy:
About that, I would like to know even more details over your remarks.
Quetzal:
321. You will receive information about that, so we can remain with the explanations over the AIDS epidemic.
322. Thus, the sodomitic, degenerate, homosexual and bisexual men, who act despicably and who act contrary to the natural laws, bear the guilt for this disease.
323. But also to blame for this epidemic are those in particular who tolerate and who advocate the sodomitic, degenerate homosexuality and the sodomitic, degenerate bisexuality as well as the sodomy, even though these forms of sexual acts are absolutely contrary to the laws of nature and whose operation, in any case, will ensure that sooner or later, lethal or at least life-threatening consequences will appear, to which many life forms of the same kind will fall prey.
324. And that will also happen in this case because those who are jointly responsible and also those who are innocent will soon be attacked by the AIDS epidemic, including the heterosexuals, who are also designated as normal-sexual.
325. The AIDS epidemic is transmitted like any other dangerous venereal disease, so not only through direct contacts, especially through sexual activity, but also through blood kisses on mouth sores and through open wounds, and furthermore through indirect contacts, like the union with bloody saliva and blood transfusions, etc.
326. That the disease pathogens can fix themselves on certain materials, such as toilet bowls, glasses, towels, etc., and survive for a longer time and, thus, also act contagiously on other people, that’s not the case.
327. But as things stand, the AIDS pathogen, in this respect, also behaves the same as pathogens of other sexually transmitted diseases, as I already mentioned.
328. In each case, however, the Earth person must exercise the greatest caution; otherwise, the epidemic will begin to run rampant very quickly and will become global within the shortest time.
329. Direct sexual contact with strangers or such people, of whom one cannot be certain of their health to the greatest percent, should be avoided.
330. After hand greetings, the hands should be promptly cleaned again, and intimate greetings with a kiss and the like should be entirely omitted, as well as physical contacts of all sexual kinds – up to the unlawful custom of the Earth people of maintaining frequent sexual relations with other people, without it concerning their own, actual partners.
331. A bad habit that that is as against nature as sodomitic, degenerate homosexuality and sodomitic, degenerate bisexuality and even sodomy itself, which has already produced its first consequences, is the Caribbean HERPES, which is also a degenerate disease of incurable form and which can become so deadly in the foreseeable time and, under certain circumstances, may be incurable like the AIDS pandemic, if the Earth person does not immediately order a stop to his earth-sex sexual perversion.
Billy:
This can yet become cheerful.
Quetzal:
332. Unfortunately, these are not the only diseases and epidemics because in foreseeable times, still other and much worse ones will follow.
333. On the one hand, the new diseases and epidemics that are to be expected will result from people and from their own guilt in a direct form, but on the other hand, other indirect consequences will become apparent, through the destruction of nature by people as well as by animals and also through new pathogens of diseases and epidemics that will be brought in from the depths of space by the space capsules, etc., as well as in the future, through the national escape of old epidemics and diseases, which will spread anew when people flee into foreign countries as a result of the chaos of war and persecution, which will run more and more rampant in the coming time because millions of people will flee from their homelands.
Billy:
Again, that is well-known to me. But now, explain to me the concerns surrounding the plague.
Quetzal:
334. It doesn’t just concern the plague, over which I have to explain a few things to you, for many other pests, diseases, and epidemics are likewise to be mentioned.
335. The plague, for example, could have never claimed so many human lives on the Earth if the Earth people would have thought and acted rationally and also would have given sufficient attentiveness to their cleanliness.
336. Just like today, the Earth people already kept pets at early times, such as cats, dogs, and birds, etc.
337. This was an incomprehensible, irresponsible, and criminal act against human life because animals of each kind living in the direct living areas results in disease and downfall.
338. People who keep animals in their direct living areas deserve to be expelled from the human community and banished for so long, until they have deliberated themselves upon the truth and the right course of action because as a result of the animals living in the direct residential areas, not only do the owners become sick and susceptible to disease but also all other occupants in the same building.
339. In addition, it goes so far that these emerging diseases are displaced outwardly and, thus, other people are infected with them.
340. For this reason, no animals ever belong in the living spaces of people.
341. Yet now to the plague:
342. The main carrier of the disease was the rat, which was present everywhere in huge herds at the time of the plague.
343. At the same principle position, the housecat and the housedog, as well as the wild animals of these species, served as disease carriers in an indirect manner.
344. The parasites living on these animals, namely the fleas, were and still are responsible for the transmission of and the epidemic-like spread of diseases and epidemics.
345. In truth, it is only purely theoretically possible to keep pets without fleas.
346. But theory is of no use because both science, as well as the healthy common sense and practical knowledge of millenniums, prove that having pets without fleas is just a dream, without the possibility of realization.
347. Nevertheless, very many people who own pets deny that their animals are infested with fleas.
348. People even believe that fleas in pets could be kept within certain limits and that only morally depraved or unclean people or pets would have fleas.
349. But in truth, a successful freedom from fleas in animals is not at all possible, not even in the case of an almost superhuman cleanliness of a person.
350. The Earth person, who still believes that only wanderers could get fleas, underestimates the flea as he also overestimates the person.
Billy:
You speak to me from the heart, and moreover, may I once read to you something that I found in a small booklet?
Quetzal:
351. You make me curious.
Billy:
Good, then listen: here it is written: “the flea is not only incalculably far superior in number to all existing pets, together with all their owners and co-owners, but it also controls an arsenal of the most extremely refined tools and works only imaginable tricks with all of these. Thus, for at least 40 million years (fossilized fleas have been found in amber deposits from the Oligocene epoch), the flea has spread over the Earth in very numerous species." Ah, how many species actually are there on our Earth; do you know this?
Quetzal:
352. 17,684 are known to us.
353. The earthly scientists, etc. only know of about half.
Billy:
Well, no matter, whatever number might always be true, for here it is written that all fleas of the insect order SIPHONAPTERA belong to the so-called “sucking-wingless.” The name, as it is written here, describes the common flea quite accurately. The adults exclusively live off of warm blood, which they suck out of their victims, after they have drilled their sharp, flexible proboscis into the skin. Fleas are nearly rectangular in shape, have no neck, and thanks to their smooth sides, they are in a perfect position to slip through a thicket of fur hair, feathers, or warm underwear. At their feet, they have double claws, with which they can cling to the skin if they are in the mood for a meal.
Quetzal:
354. That is correct, and because that is so, the Earth person has another reason to pay extremely close attention to his hygiene and not allow there to be growth of hair in any places where the fleas feel most comfortable, particularly in the pubic area.
355. And because the Earth person’s pubic area is still covered with hair for a lot of evolution-obstructive reasons, it should be artificially depilated, for only in this way can it truly be kept hygienically clean.
Billy:
That’s what you just said. But good, here it is written further: “fleas are usually up to 5 millimeters long and strongly flattened on the sides. Every dog that’s ever crushed a flea between its teeth and every person who has ever tried to “crack” one between the fingernails knows what pressure this little animal endures. But it’s rather difficult to take the life of a flea; if someone has one, it’s almost impossible to catch it. It is simply the best jumper in the world. The human flea, for example, jumps 35 cm far and 20 cm high. A person with this leaping power could jump 150 meters far and 85 meters high. A comparatively large group of fleas goes about it completely differently. Chicken fleas and sand fleas, for example, don’t jump but rather bore themselves into the particularly inviting and sheltered spots of the skin of the victim and remain stuck there. They are particularly troublesome for beach-goers, who walk along barefoot or who sunbathe in the nude, lying face down in the sand, whereby the fleas press themselves, particularly with great pleasure, into the pubic area. In addition, they are also very troublesome for birds and especially for those people, of whom they penetrate under the toenails.” You see, Quetzal, even here, a smart aleck writes about the flea in the pubic area.
Quetzal:
356. A certain degree of wisdom cannot be denied to the writer.
Billy:
Exactly, but listen further: usually, the fleas mate on the body of a warm-blooded host. In some species, like the human flea (Pulex irritans) for example, the male only mates after an abundant, satisfying blood meal. Only then does he go on the search for a female. When one considers how small such a flea is and how large a Danish mastiff is, it can become rather adventurous. Yet after a long stalking through fur or feathers, the male flea usually meets the object of his affection. But for insect relations, fleas are just not very fertile because a female, throughout the whole time of her reproductive period, only lays about a dozen eggs each time, so only a total of about 500. These white, oval eggs roll away from the body of the host animal and generally remain under carpets, in the cracks of wood, or in clothes, etc. – just everywhere where dust collects. Then, they hatch into small, maggot-shaped larva, which live on plant and animal waste. The larva then spins a cocoon, out of which the adult flea finally emerges. Fleas live relatively long, namely up to two and a half years, and they survive under all possible environmental conditions, except in extreme heat, cold, wetness, or dryness. They thrive best between temperatures of 18 and 37 degrees* and with an air humidity of 65-70 percent. One can readily see what place has ideal conditions and, at the same time, offers warm blood in large quantities: namely, the human habitation. Many warm-blooded animals have their own types of flea. In addition to the human flea, there are the cat, dog, chicken, bat, rat, rabbit, bird, fox, and horse flea, etc. (with which the list would still not be fulfilled or be complete for a very long time). Now, these aforementioned flea designations should not lead to wrong optimism, however, because a hungry flea of every kind – whether dog or cat flea, bird or rat flea – jumps on every host that it can reach, thus also on humans – on you and me.
*Translator’s Note: Americans should keep in mind that the Celsius scale, not the Fahrenheit scale, is the one commonly used in Switzerland. Thus, if the degree unit isn’t specified, then the degree Celsius should be assumed.
Quetzal:
357. One moment, my friend, because in addition, I have to explain something with regard to the plague, also concerning the AIDS pandemic:
358. In addition to the rats, dogs and cats were and still are indirect culprits in the propagation of these and other epidemics.
359. The reason is that they are inhabited by a large number of fleas, which are, in turn, the best carriers of all diseases and epidemics.
360. Even immune, they jump from host to host, to stab him with their trunk in order to get to the blood and, at the same time, infect the host with diseases and epidemics.
361. If the flea pricks the host, then at the same time, proteins infected with pathogens of diseases and epidemics are injected into the tiny wound, which first causes irritation, itching, and swelling, according to which the pathogens of diseases and epidemics then start to become active.
362. Thus, not only did the rat become a deadly spreader of disease through the folly of the Earth people but also cats and dogs, which were disastrously kept by the people as pets and, in spite of everything, are still kept in the same irresponsible manner to this very day.
363. The fleas carried by cats and dogs jumped onto animals, such as the rats, which were the carriers of the bubonic plague at that time.
364. The fleas then pricked the animals infected with the pathogens of diseases or epidemics and sucked up the blood containing the epidemic agents or pathogens.
365. Thus, the plague bacillus was received from the rats by cat fleas and dog fleas, which were then transported to domestic animals of the same kind and so were carried by cats and dogs into the immediate area of the person and into his residential premises, where the infected fleas then jumped onto people and infected them with the bubonic plague bacillus, which cost the lives of about 50 million people during the time of the last plague – as a result of their own insanity and through their own lack of hygiene, for they kept domestic animals in their own residential premises or came into direct contact with such animals and even caressed them – which is still insanely and irresponsibly the case with the Earth people today, by what means such events can recently appear and which, in fact, are present.
Billy:
But the pathogens, by which a flea is infected, also ultimately kill the flea, if I am correctly oriented. Bacilli, viruses, and other agents of disease or pathogens are true monsters that destroy everything in final consequence.
Quetzal:
366. That is correct because even a flea is killed by the pathogens over time, but usually not through the outbreak of the disease in itself because the rule is that the flea itself is immune to it.
367. Thus, other factors appear with it, which bring it to death.
368. For example, with the infection of the bubonic plague bacillus, it happens that the plague bacilli collect in small bundles in the stomach of the flea and soon block and clog the pylorus.*
369. Thus, the flea falls into a regular feeding frenzy, and it just eats and sucks up only as much as what is possible for it, as it jumps from one host to another.
*Translator’s Note: the “pylorus” is the stomach exit of the flea.
Billy:
And with each pass, a new injection of the plague and, thus, death are dispensed.
Quetzal:
370. An inevitable result.
Billy:
I have also learned that even the flea itself is used as a host, by microscopic parasites and even by certain mites, which can be transported around by it, as the flea lets itself be carried around by hosts, by animals and humans. In addition, the parasites clinging to the fleas are also carriers of diseases and epidemics.
Quetzal:
371. That, too, is correct.
372. Nevertheless, there are not only the fleas and their parasites that displace diseases and epidemics but also the person himself.
373. He often continues to displace diseases and epidemics through his irrationality, through his impurity, or through foolishness and ignorance.
374. It is also like this in the case of HERPES and the AIDS epidemic.
375. So for example, there are various vaccines against other diseases that, through carelessness, negligence, desire for profit, and depravity, are contaminated with pathogens of Herpes and AIDS, whereby the epidemics become indirectly transmitted and displaced.
376. Furthermore, this is also the case with blood plasma, whereby especially HEMOPHILIACS get sick with the AIDS epidemic.
377. Then, also the factor of those who are addicted to medicines, alcohol, and drugs should be noted, whose physical defense systems are already impaired by addictions and which accordingly exhibit particularly strong susceptibility to such epidemics.
378. Even with the pestilence, it was already the case then, but in much smaller measures, for the only hallucinogens at that time were the very common drugs, namely opium, which then held the role of a fashion agent.
379. But the main causes of the transmission of the plague and the epidemics were the rats, dogs, and cats, with which the flea carried the transmitters.
380. The main cause in the future, however, will be the person himself, and AIDS will only be the first world-wide epidemic that he will allow to run rampant, whereby the relentlessly rising overpopulation of other deadly diseases will be generated, through which some day, a violent decimation of mankind will result.
Billy:
If you will, I have some interesting sentences here that relate to this, which I would like to read to you.
Quetzal:
381. Then let me hear.
Billy:
Good – it is written here: “As a rule, a person has adept fingers and hands, very little hair, and is in the habit of washing himself with soap and water, by what means he can somewhat keep the flea away from the body. However, this is only to some extent because in regards to keeping oneself completely free of fleas (also of lice and other parasites), a person is not capable of this, and animals are all the less capable of do so, which themselves can never be freed from this vermin, even with the most thorough cleaning by chemical means. Nevertheless, a person can extensively protect himself through extreme cleanliness, largely because his sparse hair growth allows this cleanliness to be possible, whereby it must be ensured that hair growth is removed from all places where cleanliness is naturally impeded and where, as a remnant of early human physical development, hair hasn’t disappeared yet, and in this regard, the pubic hair portion is being addressed. This is a portion of the human body that requires quite special attention and cleanliness and which corresponds to a particular popularity of fleas, lice, and other parasites, as well as direct pathogens of diseases and epidemics, which is why the pubic area should not only be maintained more and be submitted to a thorough cleaning at least twice a day, at least in the morning and in the evening, but also that the pubic hair should be removed most thoroughly, and the pubic area should be kept free of a lot of hair, such as by shaving or depilatories. This ca…”
Quetzal:
382. This is extremely interesting; from what kind of writing have you taken this article?
Billy:
It’s just a pamphlet entitled: “Time-bomb epidemic and illness." As author of the article, here is Albert Linden. Here is the year 1968. Any more doesn’t arise from it. There’s an introduction written here: “With the permission of the Medical Council.” But information on the country of origin, etc. is missing.
Quetzal:
383. That really isn’t important.
384. It would have only interested me as to how the author’s strength has discovered the truth, also with regard to the pubic hair and the need for its removal.
Billy:
Unfortunately, that isn’t clear from the article, but continue to hear what is written here.
Quetzal:
385. Can you then leave me the writing?
Billy:
Of course, but now listen: “Animals are much worse off than humans, for they can never submit themselves to such a self-cleaning, as this is possible for the person. However, a person is not and will never be in a position to clean an animal or keep it pure in such a way that it would actually be freed from parasites. So that the person may suffer no harm, there is only the precaution of thorough cleanliness, wherein also public employment is included and also the basic implementation of the fact that never and under no circumstances can animals and birds of all kinds find entrance and a place in the direct or indirect residential premises of people.”
Quetzal:
386. And it’s also fundamentally important to note here that after contact with animals, the person should immediately and thoroughly cleanse the affected areas of his body, as he should also never caress the animals’ mouths, etc., as is morbidly and wrongly done on the Earth very frequently.
387. But if people do this anyways, then they must absolutely ensure that, at least, no intimate touching and the like take place, such as kissing, for such people are undoubtedly infected by pathogens that were transmitted by animals and which exhibit periods of outbreak up to 7 or even 50 years, such as with the next upcoming epidemic, “Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy,” or BSE for short, also called mad cow disease, which will become dangerous for the person in form of the Creutzfeldt-Jakob syndrome, about which you must remain publicly silent, however, until the year 1990.
Billy:
With the periods of outbreak, do you mean the incubation time, during which the body develops the disease or epidemic and breaks out if the pathogens are not completely neutralized or eliminated by the body’s self-defense system?
Quetzal:
388. That is correct.
389. But with that, we should now conclude this subject again because there are still many things to mention which have reference to other concerns.
Billy:
From my side, you can continue with the predictions. We stopped at the AIDS epidemic, of which you said that it will have a greater impact in Switzerland, etc. already in the middle of the year 1983 and this through the medical profession or the like, and through public communication and publication means, everything will be minimized in order to avoid a panic.
Quetzal:
390. Right, but regarding this, I forgot to mention that this trivialization will also sometimes arise from irresponsibility and ignorance.
Billy:
Humans of the Earth are just a miracle of impropriety.
Quetzal:
391. One can actually say that in very many relationships.
Billy:
That’s why I say it, yes.
Quetzal:
392. But now, we really should go on, my friend.
Billy:
Then go already.
Quetzal:
393. Do you still remember the assassination attempt on the Pope?
Billy:
How could I not?
Quetzal:
394. Very well; indeed, it was just a question because the consequences will continue for a long time.
Billy:
You mean that the relevant things aren’t concluded yet and that even further impacts will arise from this?
Quetzal:
395. That is correct because in the middle of the year 1983, further consequences will arise in this connection.
Billy:
Then speak at last, and don’t let yourself unbutton each word individually.
Quetzal:
396. The assassin is to be set free as a result of extortionate kidnapping.
397. Therefore, a younger girl will be kidnapped, so that the Italian government will be forced by extortion to release the murderer and assassin Ali Agca.
Billy:
And, will this succeed – and also, how will the dishonest Pope express himself? Yet he is too cowardly to put in a word for the fact that the assassin be set free because he fears too much for his miserable life.
Quetzal:
398. I will talk about the success or failure later.
399. Yes, you’re right about the Pope:
400. He is a coward, which is why he will not advocate, at least the first time, with a word for the release of the murderer and assassin and, thus, for the preservation of the life of the girl.
401. He will only do it when he can be sure of his life in good measure.
402. But he does not care about the life of the girl in any way.
403. In every case, he is only concerned about his own advantage and only acts if it strengthens his image.
Billy:
Presumably, he will only speak a word when the child is beyond help. As I estimate the guy, it cannot be otherwise.
Quetzal:
404. Unfortunately, you hit the truth, but continue to listen because accordingly, there are still more things that will be of importance for the people of the Earth, even though it will only be so because everything will be hyped.
405. The next such event will take place around the month of September, but the date remains unclear.
406. At this coming time, a Korean passenger jet will be shot down by the Russian air defense, to which approximately 270 people will fall victim.
407. And it will happen that the whole world will grumble against the Russians and, at other times, will do more injustice to this nation, despite the fact that Israel, for example, has already done the same and that the airspace damage of the Korean airplane will be steered by secret American forces.
408. This will be for provocation and in connection with disarmament negotiations between Russia and America, which will take place at that time in Geneva.
409. Of course, what happens over time in the interests of the Earthlings will flatten out again but will reach the Americans, and in particular, president Reagan, marked by deceit and war addiction, will be the reason why the Russians will fall into the crossfire of a worldwide protest, which will be accepting to Reagan’s plans.
Billy:
I received several letters from America, and they clearly show that the Americans want to own the weapons monopoly over the Earth, whereby they are also seeking the status of a military world police power, in order to be able to control everything. I will present these letters to you next time.
Quetzal:
410. Unfortunately, that is correct because the aspiration of the Americans actually lies in that direction, whereby they even have the audacity, under the guise of peacekeeping and peacemaking, to interfere in foreign affairs and allow military forces to break into foreign countries.
411. But at least in Lebanon, they will pay dearly because as a look into the future has shown, the American peacekeeping forces will suffer heavy losses by an Arab suicide mission around the 20th of October 1983, when Palestinian forces load a truck with explosives and drive into the headquarters of the Americans in order to detonate the load there, as this will also be the case in the headquarters of the French troops in Lebanon.
412. Unfortunately, things aren’t yet recognized quite clearly in this respect, but there will likely be 250 to 300 deaths.
413. But for this, the Americans are expected to prepare an evil retaliatory strike because the vindictiveness and war-addiction of President Reagan knows no boundaries.
414. In addition, he will already allow a new act of war to be carried out just days after the attack and will let American troops invade the island of Grenada, which again will result in many deaths.
Billy:
And of course, Reagan will again find a justification for this, which is apart from himself.
Quetzal:
415. Unfortunately, that will again be so, for the Earth people are blind and deaf to the truth, even in other things, as represented by the military.
416. It is especially like this in reference to earthquakes because it simply doesn’t want to be recognized that many of the earthquakes are only triggered by the fault of the person, as this will also be the case with the quake that will take place around the turn of October and November in northeast Turkey, to which approximately 2,150 people will fall victim.
Billy:
So this would have to be in Kars or Erzurum again, right?
Quetzal:
417. That is correct because the district Erzurum will be the part that will mainly be affected the most.
418. An area that you know very well.
419. However, this won’t be the only earthquake at this time because still another area that is well-known to you will be shaken by a heavy quake only about ten days later, so namely Liège and the closer and wider environment, but mainly only property damage will result, fortunately with only a few deaths, which will hardly be three.
420. But otherwise, a larger disaster will occur again only a few days later, when the Americans will irresponsibly bring new combat missiles into Europe, namely into England for the time being, even though the disarmament negotiations in Geneva won’t yet have prospered so far that even just a prospect for a solution would be evident.
Billy:
Aha, at the same time, I remember the prophecies that speak of the fact that the Great Bear will break in over the North Sea coming into England. When I consider this in such a way, the missiles could very well be a reason, perhaps, why an attack on England takes place in the distant future.
Quetzal:
421. Your reasoning isn’t wrong because the reasons very well lie therein, but the missiles are not the direct, pivotal point.
422. They are, however, an unmistakable sign of the time of the fulfillment of the prophecies, as will also be the enormous peace demonstrations that will find their implementation in many European countries and primarily in Germany, only a few days earlier, before the Americans bring their combat missiles into England.
Billy:
I understand; it means that somewhere, the call for peace in a hundred thousand-fold form speaks of that time when the world events cannot be delayed any more; thus, the prophecies must be fulfilled, and the Third World War will come soon. “And truly only a miracle can still save the world and the people, who summon in unison the death and destruction, even though their cry is for peace and rest." That’s what one says, if I’m not mistaken.
Quetzal:
423. You are not mistaken, and your words are correct and accurate, as they are given by this prophecy.
424. This prophecy, however, is not given to Earth humanity; rather, it comes from the stock of prophecies that are given to the prophets alone and where the data of events is contained and about which, silence must be preserved, in order not to provoke something that can still be prevented by sufficient reason, nevertheless.
Billy:
Of course, that’s true, and I also comply with this provision. Never have I mentioned the contents of these prophecies in such a way that accurate data could be taken from it. Moreover, everything can first be prevented.
Quetzal:
425. The speech wasn’t about that, but I am surprised that you talk about that.
Billy:
It just momentarily escaped me, in what connection I know these prophecies. My head and my memory have often given me difficulties since my accident and the serious concussion.
Quetzal:
426. That is understandable, but you should allow yourself more rest, which you now actually need very much more than ever before.
Billy:
Alright, but you know that sometimes, I just have rather large difficulties with my memory, so now I currently dig around in notes in order to reacquaint myself with everything that has escaped me, as for example the note that I have here regarding information that Semjase once gave to me. It says here: “Vega forms a new planetary system,” and here, “the dust rings around the SOL system,” and here, “the two other planets in the SOL system.” With regard to these notes, I would like to know from you what it’s all about, for I don’t exactly remember.
Quetzal:
427. About that, nothing should officially become known to the Earth people yet, for first toward the end of the year 1983 might the time be ripe for that.
428. But if until then, you do not provide the information to the Earth people, then I may well be helpful to you in short form:
429. Concerning Vega, your note refers to the fact that in the area of Vega and Lyra, a cosmic process takes place, which produces new stars.
430. This is a fact that is still unknown to the Earth scientists, but it will be grasped in the near future.
431. Your note regarding the dust rings around the SOL system presumably may have been made by you with regard to a conversation, in which Semjase explained to you the origin of the various fine dust rings around the SOL system, about which you were surprised at that time, when you became aware of them.
432. And in…
Billy:
Aha, now it dawns on me again, but just tell me more. If one throws me a stone, then I can fathom the approach.
Quetzal:
433. That is understandable and good, but hear, now, what the note means with regard to the two other planets in the SOL system.
434. It probably involves the explanation of Semjase that the Sun is orbited by two dwarf planets, which have remained hidden to the terrestrial scientists until now and which orbit very far beyond Pluto’s orbit around the SOL system.
Billy:
Oh, I see; then it concerns the explanations pertaining to the yet undiscovered minor planets Elin and Anar, as you call them; although, in certain Earth circles, there are, indeed, speculations over the existence of other planets, and in addition, one of the two unknowns is called UNI or Trans-Pluto.
Quetzal:
435. That is correct.
*Translator’s Note: The following portion was translated into English by Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg.
Billy:
Good. But now I have yet another question, which is important to me and also to other people. It deals with that which was explained to me by you, being that, on Earth, alterations have come about in the atomic structure of some constituents, and indeed through the fault of the Earth humans. If I remember correctly about that, it was said to me then, that everything can be up to about 2,000 years older or younger than can be analyzed using the best methods.
Quetzal:
436. It has th…
Billy:
Excuse me please, but I want to retell everything myself, because I also want to establish whether my memory still functions correctly. The precise erroneous number of years should amount to about 2,000, so, therefore, in each case this number of years must be added to or subtracted from a result.
Quetzal:
437. That is of correctness, yet the details relating to this would lead too far, were we to now once again discuss them thoroughly.
Billy:
Good. Then in the course of time, in the near future, I will write an article for the Aquarian Age, that thoroughly engages this theme, and which I can then attach as an addendum, so to speak, to this contact report, if that is acceptable to you.
Quetzal:
438. I am in agreement with that, yet you should only attach the article to the contact report once you have provided it to me for inspection, so mistakes can be avoided.
Billy:
Naturally, I am in agreement with that.
*Translator’s Note: The following is the supplemented section.
Explanation in Accord with the Preceding Conversation:
The number of years in the data – given here again – in the cited list, in no way tallies with the numbers of years in the data which have been produced by terrestrial scientists. The difference between the Plejarens’ data and that of the Earth scientists amounts to about 2,000 years, for which the Plejaren have, however, provided a plausible explanation, which will certainly be distasteful to the Earth scientists, who carry out all possible and impossible things with the most modern instruments and dating analysis methods. It has been explained by the Plejaren that the terrestrial dating instruments and apparatus, and also the purely chemical dating processes, are very well polished and are largely precise, so, good and, in part, even nearly precise dating results can be established by the scientists, but that, however, erroneous results appear with dating processes with certain materials which have an age dating back to before 1,438 B.C., whereby a margin of error of up to 1,942 years can result. And this occurs in the form – as was explained by the Plejaren – that, a material which originates before 1,438 years B.C. has suffered an atomic radiation, whereby 1,942 years of the decaying process are simply missing. This, as it has been explained, impairs the precise measurement of the decay of the half-life of certain materials by up to 1,942 years, whereby the result is that everything which is, for example, measured and analyzed as originating 1,450 years B.C., can actually be up to 1,942 years older, so in this case, therefore, originating 3,392 years B.C., because 1,450 B.C. and 1,942 results in 3,392 B.C. Concerning this, it has been further said by the Plejaren that this stark alteration in certain materials of the Earth has come about because the Earth human, in his insanity, has evoked atomic and chemical processes in all spheres (as for example, the lithosphere/biosphere, atmosphere, chromosphere, stratosphere, and so forth) which engender certain radiations which influence and alter certain materials on the Earth in such a way that disturbances in the atomic balance and molecular balance appeared and provoked alterations in various materials with origins dating back to before 1,438 years B.C. So, as it was explained, entire half-life structures have been eradicated, so a precise analysis is only still possible if the half-life structures’ missing time of 1,942 is added to, or subtracted from, the obtained result in each case, if the obtained dating amounts to an origin earlier than 1,438 years B.C. Hence, and because of this, for example, also the difference that appears between the Plejaren data and the Earth scientists’ is explainable, thus, for example, in the case of the Santorini catastrophe and the time of Moses, which is stated by the Earth scientists as being circa 1,500 B.C., while the Plejaren give the time 3,453 B.C. The Plejaren data for the time of Moses and the Santorini catastrophe, up to the year 1,511 B.C., indicates a difference of 1,942 years, so therefore the difference to the terrestrial scientists’ assumptions that the history of Santorini and Moses took place around the time of 1,500 B.C. An assumption, which is understandable, if one thinks that they do not include the missing 1,942 years – of the change and alteration of certain terrestrial matter – in their calculations because they lack the necessary knowledge of these facts.
Through the Plejarens’ statements and clarifications it is also clear that, through the Earth humans’ lack of reason and his insanity, already certain parts of terrestrial material, right to the core of the planet, have suffered an irreparable change and alteration, whereby a precise dating of various materials can differ by 1,942 years or more and have a greater age, if this material dates back to before 1,438 years B.C. In and of itself, this plays no great role, if ages of millions or billions of years are being calculated, but these facts play an important role, if, for example authentication of historical dates is to be produced, because, in every case, up to 1,942 years are missing if the material for analysis dates back to before 1,438 years B.C. Through that, a completely different picture emerges in the entire historical research of the early history of humanity, and suddenly many previously unsolved puzzles would be explainable just with reference to the additional passages of time. The conclusion from this should be that the Earth human dedicates himself less to his megalomania, and indulges less in it, and instead occupies himself more with the truth and with his overflowing insanity so he dismantles this and accepts and follows the actual truth. That would namely lead to him beginning to live correctly and laying aside his ambitions which are anchored in greed, hate and power, as well as in addiction to profit, and leading a life favorable to Creation. For, truly, the Earth human is not the only form of human in the universe and, relative to all that exists, he is less than a flea in infinite space. Let him therefore be taught by those who come to Earth from the depths of outer space, who bring the truth to the Earth humans and endeavor to bring Creation’s laws and commandments to the human of the blue planet, and thereby truth, wisdom, knowledge and true love.
Billy
*End of supplemented section and end of Dyson Devine’s and Vivienne Legg’s translated portion.
Quetzal:
439. Then I can continue with my remarks?
Billy:
Sure, because at the moment, I have no further questions.
Quetzal:
440. Also, if possible, we should now remain with my remarks, for I still have a few things to explain.
Billy:
Of course, but if questions go hunting through my head, then I must give you these; otherwise, I’ll forget them. You know, nevertheless, my mind and memory.
Quetzal:
441. That is correct.
442. I will take that into consideration.
Billy:
For which I am really grateful to you.
Quetzal:
443. So be it, but now, I really should devote myself to my remarks again.
Billy:
Then fire away, at last.
Quetzal:
444. Next, I have to report from the months of November and December, during which a great deal of new and malevolent acts of war will arise in Lebanon, where the Americans will officially intervene in the fighting but under the guise of self-defense.
Billy:
This, of course, is only a pretext.
Quetzal:
445. That is correct.
446. The same or similar pretexts or even wrong, invented pretexts will also be decisive for many other events of the future, whereby also the members, friends, and acquaintances of your group and, perhaps, even you will suffer harm.
447. The course is already set to proceed with intrigues against the truth and, therefore, against you and the mission.
448. In the future, even the authorities will no longer shriek back from lies and intrigues, and with purchased false witnesses, they will work against you and the truth and against the group members and your friends, acquaintances, and advocates.
449. These authorities fear the truth and you and all those who are associated with you, just as you are also feared by the wrong UFO groups and UFO organizations, which will also pull together and will newly take to the field with bribed authorities, having fresh power against you and the truth.
450. Ways are already being prepared in order to spread, in the most infamous ways, new lies against you and the mission and, thus, against us, whereby they won’t hold back from heavily burdening innocent people with false accusations and false testimonies in order to discredit them in such a way that imprisonments and other harsh and unjustified punitive measures could result for those who are innocent.
(Florena’s Note – 1/1/2004: This later happened, for example, in the case of Wendelle C. Stevens.)*
451. And these could encounter any one of your group members, as well as you yourself or your friends or acquaintances in every country of the Earth, where they always live, go, and dwell.
452. Since the authoritative powers of the UFO organizations couldn’t align anything against you, the truth, the mission, and us with their recent slanderous actions, they are now trying to take action against you and the truth and against the mission and us through joint intrigues with the authorities, by inventing false allegations and by bringing in perjurers who, with good remuneration, are willing to swear to the wrong UFO organizations and the authorities and other forces of defamation; thus, they conjure up lies as truth and make false accusations, which are directed against you and the truth and against the mission and against us, but they are also directed against all those who represent our mission and the truth and you, so therefore your immediate group members, your friends, acquaintances, and advocates and all those involved with you in any other way or who insert a word for you.
*Translator’s Note: Florena’s note above likely refers to the charge that was brought against Wendelle Stevens in 1983, which was briefly mentioned in the Author’s Note of Gary Kinder’s book: Light Years: An Investigation into the Extraterrestrial Experiences of Eduard Meier and to which Kal K. Korff devoted an entire chapter in his book: Spaceships of the Pleiades: The Billy Meier Story. Despite the fact that Wendelle pled guilty to the child molestation charges, the note of Florena, one of the Plejarens, indicates that Wendelle was truly innocent of such a crime and that he was likely threatened to plead guilty due to his close involvement in the UFO phenomenon. One can only imagine what the consequences would have been for Wendelle and/or those who were close to him if he had not pled guilty.
Billy:
You speak as though it might happen to us really badly.
Quetzal:
453. That is correct because even murder and deliberate misrepresentation of justice may emerge, as well as betrayal within your own ranks, which will extend into the immediate family, as well as possibly kidnapping and extortion, but certainly renewed assassination attempts, which you already know too well and have experienced.
Billy:
This comes somewhat suddenly, what you say here.
Quetzal:
454. This is not so sudden because everything was set long in advance, whereby the first steps toward these intrigues have already been taken, about which I may not inform you now, however.
455. Anyhow, it is such that for you and all your friends, group members, and for your acquaintances and advocates, from now on, extreme caution is necessary, for now, the true enemies will not shy away from any intrigues, even if these will still be so common and destructive and murderous, whereby it must be said that first and foremost, everything will be specifically aligned toward your own person, so less toward the group members.
Billy:
Does the US film of Larry Young, perhaps, play a part in this?
Quetzal:
456. That is correct because the film has set in motion all sorts of things and hasn’t caused a particularly mild shock to those who have worked by all means against you and our mission and, therefore, against the truth, and in particular, the MUFON and Jim Lorenzen stand in the foreground as a front of a world-wide combat group against you and the truth and, thus, against us and our common mission.
Billy:
Nevertheless, I will not give up.
Quetzal:
457. This decision lies solely with you and your group members because you are those who are exposed to the actual and direct battle, even though you initially suffered other injuries and you still remain spared in a direct form, which can soon change, nevertheless, if the betrayal comes to you.
Billy:
Then the betrayal should just come.
Quetzal:
458. It will be, and you can be sure that various group members will also contribute due damage to this, which won’t exactly be light.
459. It even must be counted on, and it is certain that by unreasonableness and injustice, your family connections will be destroyed.
Billy:
Then it can still become really cheerful.
Quetzal:
460. That is correct, but unfortunately, this won’t change in any way because it is also based on the principle that the grain must be separated from the chaff.
461. But concerning this, we should have spoken enough now, for I still have to inform you of other things:
462. Around the 9th of February 1984, a change will arise in the world-political scene again because the Russian ruler Juri Andropov will depart from this life and be replaced by a man named Chernenko.
463. What will emerge from this can’t accurately be predicted yet because things are still unclear for them to be calculated.
Billy:
Certainly, a lot won’t change, right?
Quetzal:
464. Everything is still unclear, as I already said.
Billy:
Then just not.
Quetzal:
465. About a month after these events, something new is expected to happen because once again, an ancient prophecy will start to become fulfilled.
466. Surely, you can remember that in reference to the prophecies, one spoke of the fact that in Egypt, a village would be exposed in the desert, which would be a sign of the times?
Billy:
Yes, I remember that; why?
Quetzal:
467. About a month after Andropov’s death, a sandstorm at that place will expose a building, which will then ultimately lead to the discovery of the ancient village in the vicinity of the Nile, as it was prophesied.
468. This will result because the relative archaeological work and nature will work more intensively after the new discovery.
Billy:
It’s good that you speak of this: I once received a prophecy, according to which at a certain time, the volcano Vesuvius should erupt.
Quetzal:
469. You’ve become forgetful, my friend, because the two of us have also spoken together about this, but I’ll tell you again that this eruption of the volcano should actually take place if inconsistencies don’t arise in the whole situation.
470. And the eruption should be one of the last signs of the fact that a Third World War can no longer be prevented under any circumstances and will come thereafter in the foreseeable future, but always to the extent that the prophecy would be fulfilled and that it wouldn’t become null and void as a result of reasonable changes.
Billy:
Right, now I remember again. You know, sometimes, I have so much running around in my head that somehow, I can no longer recall things at the right time.
Quetzal:
471. However, as a person, you adapt yourself more than just very good, my friend, and I often ask myself how you endure the human condition in general.
472. With your origin, your human body must prepare and must have always prepared evil sufferings for you, but just that you can endure this proves to me that even I could never take your place.
473. For this, one must have already had a very long material life behind himself, in order to be able to endure such torments in a susceptible host body.
Billy:
I do dream back sometimes – as a person can do this, you know?
Quetzal:
474. Very well, my friend, but I could not endure it, nevertheless, because I’m just not capable of it yet as a human being, as well as all other humans.
475. Hell must truly be tantamount to another paradise for you.
Billy:
Sometimes, I feel a bit helpless and miserable, especially when loneliness becomes too oppressive. But let’s leave this because you have other things that must be said.
Quetzal:
476. That is correct, even if there isn’t a lot to report for the time being.
477. What is moving, perhaps, is that in the middle of the year, the Pope will now visit Switzerland.
478. This will, at least, interest the Catholic world.
479. Then, in late July and into August, severe thunderstorms will afflict many countries, whereby also Switzerland will be hit hard, as well as Germany, Russia, India, Australia, Korea, and Mexico.
480. Moreover, in the Philippines, there will be more than 200 people killed by a hurricane.
Billy:
Then the environment strikes back once again, which is hard pressed and destroyed by mankind. But for this, I just have a question, namely in relation to the decline of nature, particularly the trees. Surely, you can tell me what the main factor actually is, which causes nature to be dying.
Quetzal:
481. Do you primarily address the decline of forests?
Billy:
Yes, and I am also interested in how high the percentage will be in Europe in the autumn of 1984.
Quetzal:
482. You speak of the percentage of the affected forest area?
Billy:
Excuse me if I expressed myself unclearly. Yes, I speak of this.
Quetzal:
483. As our calculations yield, already by the autumn of 1984, 54% of the supply of trees in Europe will be damaged due to illness.
484. This is the average of our calculations.
Billy:
And what is the principal and most toxic substance that will allow nature to die?
Quetzal:
485. For this, as we can presently determine, the chief fault lies with the electromagnetic radiation and the lead gasoline, which are used for a variety of means of transportation and commercial machines.
486. The gasoline contains Tetra-ethyl lead, which passes through the exhaust pipes and into the open air.
487. But there, it changes under the solar radiation into triethyl lead.
488. This is a highly toxic substance that causes cancerous diseases and which is also taken up by the trees and plants, etc.
Billy:
And how long does it take, then, until the trees, for example, get sick?
Quetzal:
489. It depends on the circumstances.
490. It is certain that the poison has a very large, long-term effect.
491. Thus, in already poisoned trees, the diseases often only appear years later.
492. The needle-leaf trees are primarily endangered by this because as a rule, they take in 12 times more toxins than normal-leaf trees.
Billy:
That’s also why the conifers become sick first.
Quetzal:
493. Where the leaf-trees, however, don’t become spared; it’s just that they will get sick later since they absorb fewer toxins.
Billy:
But all other toxins are also decisive, right?
Quetzal:
494. That is correct.
495. Lead gasoline, along with the electromagnetic radiation, is just another main factor in the chain of natural death.
496. Only a complete ban on these substances could provide quick and effective relief.
Billy:
Humans aren’t so clever and life-loving, however.
Quetzal:
497. If nature dies, then life also dies, especially since the trees, after plankton, are the other main suppliers of oxygen.
Billy:
That’s right, and if the trees are gone, then life starts to die in general because the oxygen becomes more and more scarce.
Quetzal:
498. That is correct.
499. The electromagnetic radiation must be curbed immediately and the diesel and lead gasoline engines should be banned as soon as possible because they are really large culprits in the health of nature and humans.
500. But the people of the Earth will discover this for themselves, shortly before that prophecy is fulfilled, which you received from Petale on the 30th of January 1976.
Billy:
At the moment, I cannot remember what prophecy this concerns.
Quetzal:
501. It is that one which speaks of the Scorpion.
Billy:
Ah, now I remember. It says in that prophecy that shortly before the monsoon season, in the country of the Elephant and the Peacock, the reigning Scorpion will die. In addition, if I have understood this prophecy correctly, then the death of the Scorpion should result through force.
Quetzal:
502. That is correct, but talk of a forcible death of the Scorpion only appears in the prophecy in a hidden form.
Billy:
Yes, I remember. Then Indira Gandhi in India will be murdered because she holds the office of Prime Minister at the time.
Quetzal:
503. That is correct.
Billy:
Her astrological sign is Scorpio.
Quetzal:
504. And also in the month of Scorpio, she will be murdered, namely on the 31st of October, 1984.
Billy:
And who will commit the crime?
Quetzal:
505. It will be her own people, so namely men of her bodyguard.
Billy:
And who will take over the office of Prime Minister for her? Is that already certain?
Quetzal:
506. That is, likewise, already determined.
507. Indira Gandhi’s son, Rajiv, will assume office.
Billy:
And, will one catch the assassin?
Quetzal:
508. There will be several, at least three.
509. As our preview showed, one will be shot, one will be critically injured, and a third will be arrested.
Billy:
Yes, and how will Indira Gandhi be killed, then?
Quetzal:
510. By shots – she will be hit by ten of them.
Billy:
A true slaughter – and one cannot do anything about this again, right?
Quetzal:
511. You should know that such an endeavor would be futile because things that are determined in such a way are the equivalent of an unchangeable programming, so they are unstoppable.
Billy:
And what is the reason for the murder?
Quetzal:
512. Indira Gandhi will make the Sikhs mortal enemies to herself in the course of the year 1984, and these will then let her be murdered out of revenge.
513. But with the assassination, there is still an element of uncertainty in the sense that it isn’t quite clear whether the third assassin is of the party of the one who is to be wounded.
514. Thus, it could be that three as well as only two bodyguards will be involved in the assassination attempt.
515. What is still to be mentioned in this case is that the death of the Prime Minister will trigger a campaign of revenge throughout India against the religious members of the bodyguard, who will fall victim to 2,700 people.
Billy:
Then a great deal will happen there in India.
Quetzal:
516. That will be a fact.
Billy:
But this also isn’t likely to change.
Quetzal:
517. No, but the events won’t occupy the world public for too long because the choice of the American president will outplay this event a few days later.
Billy:
And who will be the new president?
Quetzal:
518. As things develop until then, Ronald Reagan will be re-elected.
Billy:
Are you sure of that? What a stupid question.
Quetzal:
519. Naturally.
Billy:
I already said that I asked a stupid question. If you weren’t sure, then you wouldn’t have said it.
Quetzal:
520. That is correct.
Billy:
And what is the next incident?
Quetzal:
521. Perhaps it would be worth mentioning that Ethiopia will once again suffer from a massive famine, but this will already be at hand much earlier than the assassination attempt in India.
Billy:
Do you mean, nevertheless, that the largest effects will appear around the time of the assassination attempt?
Quetzal:
522. No, for the effects will already be very devastating much earlier.
523. What I want to say is that in the course of that time, the world public will first be made properly aware of this catastrophe; thus, the famine will then become a world interest.
Billy:
Oh, I see, and the problem can be solved, then?
Quetzal:
524. No, of course not, for there won’t be enough assistance.
Billy:
As this is always so in such cases. Moreover, I think that such assistance only enlarges the problem.
Quetzal:
525. That is correct because each assistance provided in such concerns magnifies a problem.
526. Each assistance isn’t used where it would have to be used.
527. The rule with the Earth people is that they always only consider assistance in the face of hunger.
Billy:
Whereby they then overlook the main evils and problems, and they neither fight against these nor resolve them in any way.
Quetzal:
528. That is correct, my friend.
529. You have recognized things correctly.
Billy:
With the ring of Neptune, if the people of the Earth would let themselves be led and taught, then a lot of the evil of this world could lie in overpopulation.
Quetzal:
530. That is absolutely correct.
531. The majority of all vile things, machinations, and catastrophes must be searched for in overpopulation.
532. But I never talked to you about the other matter.
533. How do you know that?
Billy:
I don’t understand you?
Quetzal:
534. You spoke of the ring of Neptune.
535. According to my knowledge, I’ve never told you that even this planet has a ring.
Billy:
Oh, I see; Semjase used this expression once, after which I asked her for the meaning. She then explained to me that even Neptune has a ring, like all the giant planets of the SOL system. So thus, my wisdom.
Quetzal:
536. Semjase shouldn’t have done that, for this fact still isn’t known to the Earth people.
537. Yet it has happened, and on the other hand, this truth will, indeed, be discovered in the coming years.
Billy:
So it will soon no longer be a secret.
Quetzal:
538. That is correct.
539. But now, hear what will happen further in the coming time:
540. On Monday, November 19, 1984, a great gas-catastrophe will occur in Mexico City, and about 450 people will die.
541. However, this disaster will only be the beginning of a whole number of smaller gas-catastrophes all over the world.
542. But only a short time after Mexico City, so we have calculated, an even more enormous gas-catastrophe will break out in India, in Bhopal, which will demand 2,562 human lives, while tens of thousands of other people will suffer from poisoning and long-term damage.
543. Like in many other cases of catastrophes on the Earth, however, the actual number of victims won’t be mentioned and will be understated, which will naturally result in a false picture.
544. Then, after the catastrophe in Bhopal, nothing really will appear, which would be worth mentioning since it won’t be world-moving.
545. First with the date of the 10th of March 1985 does an event then follow, which will move the world public, namely when the Russian leader, Chernenko, dies and a new man arrives at the head of the government, who will be called Mikhail Gorbachev.
Billy:
Not really a lot of movement for the purpose of the thinking of the Earth people because the many deaths during the catastrophes will be forgotten just as quickly as the events in Moscow. The people of the Earth are short-thinking, and they only get excited just at the moment of an event. Once an event is over, they become forgetful, and they think that it’s all over for them.
Quetzal:
546. That is, unfortunately, a fact that cannot be dismissed and which will probably always remain incomprehensible to us.
Billy:
This is also incomprehensible to me.
Quetzal:
547. The person of the Earth is very short-lived in his memories of things that do not concern him.
548. He is very selfish and cares little for his neighbor, which is why he also displaces such memories and learns nothing from them.
Billy:
That is also my opinion, but that probably isn’t to be changed so quickly.
Quetzal:
549. Yes, it will still take a lot of time to complete.
Billy:
Full insight probably won’t even be attained when the Earth folk will have brought the greatest catastrophe of all earth-time upon their planet. I just wonder how much it will actually take before the people of this world come to their senses and finally begin to live in accordance with the laws of Creation.
Quetzal:
550. That is correct, but listen further:
551. The new man of Moscow, Mikhail Gorbachev, will be the great reformer, by whose will and works a lot will change all over the world, even though he and the course of his reform will soon take in a lot of rainfall, about which I’ll explain different things to you later.
552. But to a large extent, Semjase already reported to you in the month of October, 1980 about the reforms of Mikhail Gorbachev and their global consequences, so there is really no need for further explanations.
553. Also, concerning everything related to your peace meditation, in which three and a half billion of our group are also included, she also even explained this to you at that time.*
554. But she told you nothing about the adverse events and the dangers to the good course of Gorbachev, which will happen through the evil machinations of power-hungry individuals and extremists and radicals in different Russian countries, such as Azerbaijan, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, etc. and which will jeopardize the entire work of Gorbachev, and she also told you nothing about the war that will go down in the annals of world history, starting from 1991, as the Gulf War.
555. Saddam Hussein – the dictator of Iraq, whom you personally know so well and of whom you always said that he would be the worst butcher of humans if he would only find the opportunity to carry out his murderous plans – will allow an invasion of Kuwait by the military on the 2nd of August 1990 and will, thus, trigger a multinational punitive action, which will be headed by the Americans.
556. From this, a battle will develop, which will be unequaled until now.
557. For about a month, multinational troops will bomb Iraq in unprecedented consequence, before the real battle begins on the ground.
558. The criminal, unscrupulous, malicious, uncompromising, murderous Saddam Hussein will avenge himself and will allow billions of liters of earth petroleum to be pumped into the waters of the Gulf, by what means he will very soon receive the infamous title “Criminal against Humanity.”
*Translator’s Note: See Semjase’s explanation during the 136th Contact, beginning at sentence number 458 and proceeding through the end of the conversation for more details.
Billy:
Thus, a military alliance will emerge, which will take up arms against the creep. Man, this can become cheerful, for Saddam Hussein won’t be the one to give way. I know him well enough from my stay there, when I was in Iraq. At that time, about 25 years ago, he was still young, about the same age as me. His views, which he explained to me, were so extreme, as he himself is in his whole character. A serious criminal from an early age, he ran into conflict again and again with the police, also because of extreme political machinations at around the age of 15 or 16 years. Even murder was a part of his daily existence, but he was never caught. When he came to power around the turning point of the eighties, he even murdered his opponents and enemies by his own hand. The guy told me at that time that he would also “shit” on all of Islam. He literally said that to me because he thought of the Islamic faith just as little as he thought of any other faith. Religion, so he told me at that time, was only useful for him, in any case, in order to make the idiotic people docile and subservient to a political or military leader. With a shit-faith, one can always get the stupid people to make him a master and a leader, and then, these would be subservient in order for him safely to shed blood. If he would take to the helm and, thus, would come to power, so he told me, then he would know how to take the idiotic people and make them be enslaved to himself. He would simply play the part of a good Muslim and, if necessary, would fall on his knees towards Mecca in public and would hypocritically pray; thus, the stupid people would certainly run after him and would congratulate him, cheer, and make him the absolute ruler. Thus, he would become master and emperor over all Arab countries, and soon, it would then also be attainable to him to take over the world and become a world-dominating great emperor. He strives to achieve this goal, and every means is good enough for him, even if hundreds of millions of people would die as a result. The guy isn’t just a megalomaniac and a limitless fanatic of the most bloodthirsty violence and destruction, but he is crazy and insane and is a danger to the entire Earth. He would subjugate the entire Earth to himself with blood and would subdue it, if only he could. The only way to stop his power-hungry plans is a multinational logical act of force against him. But certainly, idiotic peace-criers all over the world will try to prevent this through demonstrations and the like, and also in various crazy Arab camps, there will be a pro-Hussein cry. But these poor lunatics won’t know what they try to arrange through this because if Saddam Hussein would win, should it actually come to this conflict mentioned by you, then this would not only mean the subjugation and possibly the death of the pro-criers or peace-criers but also the ever bloodiest enslavement and torment of all of Earth humanity. Man oh man, I know this guy Saddam Hussein and I know what he is capable of. If everything actually arrives as you say, and I do not doubt your words, then one should send all the idiotic peace-criers and pro-Hussein criers into the desert.
Quetzal:
559. Your statements correspond to all correctness.
560. But unfortunately, there will be other culprits to be named when the war breaks out in the Gulf in January of 1991 because Saddam Hussein will react to any attempts toward peace just as negatively as to an ultimatum, after which the allied bombing of Iraq will then begin a little on the 16th of January in the early morning hours.
561. Also to be named as culpable in this war will be all those who build bunkers and chemical factories, as well as many other war-technical plants, for Saddam Hussein.
562. Even weapons suppliers and weapons system-improving engineers, etc. are also included.
563. Last but not least to be mentioned is Ronald Reagan, who laid the foundation-stone for his war policy in general, so that these machinations of a serious and world-threatening nature could and can appear.
564. But to explain the individual points would take too long.
Billy:
That is understood, but tell me, won’t many businesses and companies fall into trouble and even bankruptcy as a result of this Gulf War?
Quetzal:
565. Unfortunately, that will be the case, also in Switzerland.
Billy:
He is a ruthless killer and a destroyer of global proportions. He disdains everything that keeps the world in honor. He also won’t shy away from calling fanatical terrorists all over the world, in order to carry out their murderous attacks of all kinds and in all places, causing tremendous damages and destroying human lives. Thus, this war will have worldwide consequences and will evoke worldwide damages and criminal terrorist attacks, which could lead to anxiety and fear. It’s just a good thing that this isn’t the Third World War, which could, perhaps, still be prevented, as Semjase said.
Quetzal:
566. Nevertheless, this coming war in the Gulf will be waged worldwide, even though it actually isn’t the Third World War, which is mentioned in the prophecies and which can, perhaps, be averted after all.
Billy:
Good, let’s leave this. We shouldn’t get too deeply involved in these war interests with ifs and buts.
Quetzal:
567. That is correct, but it should, perhaps, still be mentioned that this upcoming Gulf War shall be more of a punitive action than an actual war, even though the whole thing will have serious and global consequences.
Billy:
So with that, all that is necessary would probably be said. – – Now, a question concerning Venus, I mean the planet Venus: all sorts of things have changed there, but I’m not exactly interested in those changes that are already known to us, such as the gigantic sand reductions, etc. The atmosphere is what interests me; how old is it already?
Quetzal:
568. You simply know very well how to switch a topic abruptly.
569. Good, now:
570. The atmosphere of the planet Venus has an age of approximately 720 million years, but still to be mentioned is that it consists primarily of carbon dioxide and is about 90 times denser than Earth’s atmosphere.
Billy:
Good, and what about, for example, the weathering at high altitudes, where I naturally speak of the mountains?
Quetzal:
571. There are, among other things, lava cones that are more than 8,000 meters tall and that have diameters of up to 35 kilometers.
572. These giant volcanic cones, however, are untouched by rain and, thus, by water erosion, but they are blown over by powerful winds that often carry with themselves fine sand and very often smooth, polished rocks.
573. But the enormous and gigantic winds and volcanic cones aren’t just for the planet Venus because on many other planets, which are foreign to SOL system and which are far larger than Venus, even more enormous volcanoes, mountains, and winds prevail.
Billy:
Is there anything else special in relation to the planets and such? Are there, perhaps, cosmic events that are worth knowing?
Quetzal:
574. Certainly, but the event will first report itself in the year 1991.
575. From the depths of interstellar space, a dense and immense cloud of fine matter will approach, which will have penetrated so far into the SOL system by about the middle of the month of February that it will then be located halfway between the planets Saturn and Uranus.
576. A fact that actually wouldn’t be noticed by the earthly astronomers if they wouldn’t pursue the path of Halley’s Comet, which will be located in the northern part of the constellation Hydra at that time.
577. These observations will most likely lead to the fact that a tremendous change in the fluorescent ratio of the comet will appear because it will penetrate into this cloud of interstellar dust and then cross it, which will naturally have as a consequence that powerful frictional forces will develop, which will allow the comet to light up 346 times more strongly than what is the case in its normal state.
Billy:
Then this will certainly also remain no secret to the Earth citizens, for certainly the newspapers will report about this, but probably again with incredible explanations that aren’t true.
Quetzal:
578. That might correspond to the truth.
Billy:
Thus, the usual. – But now, I have yet another question regarding what you said about Saddam Hussein and Kuwait, etc. You haven’t revealed how the Gulf crisis or even the punitive action will go out against Iraq, and at the same time, what special things are yet to be expected?
Quetzal:
579. As I told you, there will be an enormous bombardment of multinational troops on Iraq and Kuwait, which will last for about a month and which has no parallels on Earth to date and won’t have any up to that time.
580. More specifically, this bombardment will last for a month and one week and will so decimate and demoralize the Iraqi army units that after the start of the ground offensive, there will arise tens of thousands of starving, wounded, sick, demoralized, and partly emotional people in the end.
581. After the ground attack, a hundred-hour battle will take place, during which the entire Iraqi army and also Saddam Hussein’s elite units, the Republican Guards, will be routed, after which the U.S. President Bush will then order a ceasefire, namely for the time around 8 or 9 o’clock, Iraqi time, on February 28, 1991.
Billy:
Then at this time, Kuwait might also become free again.
Quetzal:
582. That will already be the case on the 27th of February.
583. Nevertheless, Kuwait will be destroyed to a very great extent, and before the ceasefire, the fleeing Iraqis will still kidnap many Kuwaitis as hostages, taking them before, but even at the beginning of, the cruel massacre of the population under occupation, to which women, children, adolescents, and men of every age will fall victim.
584. Women and children will be raped and abused, in order to violate them after that, so that intimate body parts can be cut from their bodies, which will then be swung by the assassins’ hands in triumph and be hung up as trophies everywhere.
585. Nevertheless, for a long time, this still won’t be enough with the atrocities of the inhuman Iraqi soldiers, for before they flee or surrender to the Allies, they will still set on fire Kuwait’s sources of oil and will make the ecological disaster, which was caused by the earth petroleum that was led into the Gulf, even larger.
586. From the oil fires, thick black soot clouds of smoke will arise, which will not only cause wide-area black rain precipitation in several countries, but they will also be very toxic and will destroy much biological life.
587. For a long time, the Sun will also be darkened by the black smoke, and multifarious life will be destroyed.
Billy:
If immature and stupid ones get power and weapons, then they will cause incredible destruction with them and release worldwide catastrophes. In addition to immaturity and stupidity, still religious fanaticism and subservience come together for the degenerated, overbearing jerks, who are so clever, however, that they are able to beat the people into bondage. But how will things continue, then, after the ceasefire?
Quetzal:
588. Furthermore will be an attempt of genocide against the Kurds, which Saddam Hussein will operate, after a murderous civil war will be fenced down by his troops.
589. But in everything, the Americans will not bear the least guilt because the American President Bush will request the Iraqi army to direct opposition against the dictator Hussein and to his overthrow, by what means he will indirectly animate the Kurds to this as well.
590. However, if the Iraqi people actually rise up against their dictator, then Bush will simply withdraw himself and then leave the Iraqi people to their misery and to the clutches of their murderous tormentor and murderer, as is customary with many Americans in their attitude and conduct.
591. Nevertheless, America is not only controlled by such inhuman and wrong elements but truly by the people who live there, and just these will be the ones who will compel the Bush administration to take action, while still giving support to the Kurds, who make use of the army stationed in Iraq to their hope and benefit, but this cannot prevent the fact that during the worst time, more than 1,000 Kurdish refugees will die daily in the inhospitable and wintry mountains of Kurdistan, which you know from your own experience, and you know how life-hostile they are.
592. Deprivation, fatigue, exhaustion, and diseases will be the causes of death of the refugees, just as also the military and inhuman acts of violence of the Iraqi army, who will also register themselves there into the third millennium, which will lead to the second Iraqi war via the Americans, under the patronage of Bush’s son, George Walker, who will then be U.S. President, who will lie to the people about alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and will fail miserably in Iraq with the army.
593. In addition, terrorism will act further, by what means a complete wildfire will be released from Arabia, at least in the Middle East.
Billy:
And Saddam Hussein, what happens to him?
Quetzal:
594. His end will come much later, but about this, I will report to you some other time if it will still be permitted to me, for I shouldn’t deal with these things any further.
Billy:
Well, will other things and events still arise that are connected to the murder of Saddam Hussein?
Quetzal:
595. Certainly:
596. The chief event of the Iraqi troops in Kuwait will be a time from which a wide-raging cholera epidemic must be counted on, which will demand thousands of lives, particularly in Latin America but also in several other countries around the world.
Billy:
So once again, a time of a large cholera epidemic. But what happens if Saddam Hussein won’t be knocked off his throne?
Quetzal:
597. Then over the course of the next decades, it would have to be counted on that the Middle East and even the entire world could be threatened by a new war.
598. He is power-hungry, autocratic, and dangerous, like a pit full of irritated, venomous snakes.
599. However, the overthrow of the dictator should not occur by foreign powers but only by his own people; otherwise, more harm than good will result and a wildfire could arise, as I already explained.
Billy:
That is a good concept, venomous snakes, which actually could have even come to my mind.
Quetzal:
600. It honors me to be a length ahead of you for once.
Billy:
That is: to be a nose-length ahead.
Quetzal:
601. That was the meaning of my words.
Billy:
Well, then so be it.
Quetzal:
602. Do you still have any questions that I should answer for you?
Billy:
At the moment, not really, unless you might still have any other predictions?
Quetzal:
603. I’ve told you everything that I had to explain to you.
604. Officially, I am not allowed to say more.
605. So unfortunately, I must tell you this now:
606. That’s it for now, once again.
607. I will probably no longer be able to give you more predictions because this task is to be taken over by another power, but this hasn’t been determined yet.
Billy:
Then we will see when the time comes.
Quetzal:
608. Then now, I want to say goodbye.
609. Until we meet again.
Billy:
Bye – until midyear.
Quetzal:
610. Until then – ’til we meet again.
Saalome 