Contact Report 821／第821次接觸報告
- 本篇譯文基於｢德｣→｢英｣→｢中｣ 譯製。
資料來源：Future Of Mankind
英版譯者：DeepL Translator, Joseph Darmanin
校對改進：Joseph Darmanin, Catherine Mossman
中版譯者：DeepL Translator, James Hsu
This is the entire contact report. It is an authorised but unofficial DeepL preliminary English translation and most probably contains errors. Please note that all errors and mistakes etc. will continuously be corrected, depending on the available time of the involved persons (as contracted with Billy/FIGU). Therefore, do not copy-paste and publish this version elsewhere, because any improvement and correction will occur HERE in this version!
Dear friend, here I am again, but time has seemed long in my absence. Greetings, Eduard, it is a great pleasure to see you well. …
It is also for me, be welcome, Bermunda, and greetings also …
It is strange, when I am away I miss you and talking to you. But it is not only me, because Quetzal and Ptaah, Florena and also Enjana have already told me the same thing. It is really very strange, you are much closer to all of us than – well, I want to say our – oh you know. It’s just the way it is.
很奇怪，當我不在的時候，我常想念你，想和你說話。而不僅僅是我，因為Quetzal和Ptaah，Florena和Enjana也已經告訴我同樣的事情。這真的非常奇怪，你比我們所有人都更親近 —— 嗯，我想說我們的 —— 哦，你知道。事情就是這樣。
Yes, I understand. I guess that is also the reason why you have visited me so many times in the last few months. It has been really noticeable, but we have always had good conversations, some of which I have been able to write down, even though there has been an extraordinary amount of them.
That was so, because our conversations were not only of a private nature. There was also a lot of discussion about the Corona plague, but Ptaah, Florena, Quetzal and Enjana, as well as I, we talked about it and decided that from now on we do not want to discuss our topics so often in such a manner that you should then call them up and write them down. We want to continue to visit you frequently and talk to you about many things, but not officially about events that affect world affairs, for we are unable to change anything in this – unfortunately. If we look at Earth-humans, there are only very few who seriously concern themselves with the conversations we have openly and accessible to all human beings during our visits to you, which you then call up and write down. Our clarifications in this respect have shown that your work is not only very strenuous for you, but that only a very small part of Earth-humans, who number over 9 billion (9,000,000,000), are interested in it and evaluate everything for their personal benefit.
之所以如此，是因為我們的談話不僅是私人性質的。也有很多關於冠狀病毒疫情的討論，但Ptaah、Florena、Quetzal和Enjana，以及我，我們討論了這個問題，而決定從現在開始，我們不想總是以這樣的方式討論我們的話題，然後讓你把它們接收下來並寫出來。我們想繼續經常拜訪你，和你談論許多事情，但不是正式談論影響世界事務的事件，因為我們在這方面無法改變什麼 —— 很遺憾。如果我們看一下地球人，只有極少數人在認真關注我們訪問你時公開的報告，而且這些報告都是所有人都能（透過網路）看到的內容，是你把這些對話內容接收下來並寫出來的。我們在這方面的調查表明，你的工作不僅對你來說非常吃力，但地球上超過90億人，只有極少數的人對它感興趣，而絕大多數人只是為了個人利益而忙。
Unfortunately, yes. But there are still a few thousand who give valuable thought to what we talk about publicly resp. what I may write down and publish, which also helps many. And the human beings who are interested in everything are very grateful for what I can call up, write down and openly call our conversations. This is also proven to me by letters, telephone calls and e-mails, also personal conversations, which are very, very rare because I hold back on them, but all our conversations and the ‘teaching of truth, teaching of Creation-energy, teaching of life’ helps many human beings to find themselves and to be able to cope with their lives. Somehow our common conversations – your Plejaren and mine and the teachings – simply belong together and help those human beings who are really honestly interested, read everything and learn from it, take it seriously and consciously apply it for their own benefit. Again and again, I hear or read that those human beings are doing well who seriously occupy themselves with the Teaching and our conversations, that they have become free of any kind of belief and have learned to think for themselves as well as to make their own decisions and consciously act for themselves and thus now have a way of life with which they are happy and satisfied. For all these human beings alone it was and is valuable that we conduct our conversations openly and accessible to the human beings, just as the ‘Teaching of Spirit’, which we now correctly call ‘Teaching of Truth, Teaching of Creation-energy, Teaching of Life’, helps a lot. We do continue to use the teaching under the name ‘Spiritual Teaching’ – for which, by the way, Eva bears all the responsibility for shipping, etc. – because the wrong word ‘spirit’ is not so quickly erased from the world. Unfortunately, the whole process of producing the Spiritual Teaching booklets and sending them out, etc. is also connected with costs, consequently, we also have to charge a fee for everything, because otherwise everything cannot be done. This is unfortunately the case in our world, because everything costs money and is dependent on it, because nothing works without it, which is why we have to work hard to ensure that everything always works out and what has to be done can be done. Even if I see to it that everything can be given and also bought as cheaply as possible, it is necessary and evenly required that the scarce finances can be allocated correctly and that the necessary materials can be bought as cheaply as possible. This also applies to food, which is why – because I also buy food and manage everything in this respect – we can also exist with everything. I learned the whole thing about finances from my parents, i.e. from my mother and father, when I was 5 years old, because my father earned 240 to 260 Swiss francs per month as a municipal worker and as a trained shoemaker, while my mother had to take care of my older sister Berta, as well as my younger brothers Gottlieb and Karl, and then also for my second and youngest sister Verena, who was severely physically handicapped, after which another straggler sister was born in the 1950s. So consequently we were only 6 children and the 2 parents who had to be maintained at that time in the 1940s with father’s income of 240.- to 260.- francs per month. With the birth of another sister in the 1950s, we had a total of 7 children. At that time, it was still common to have high numbered families, i.e. father, mother and many children.
很遺憾，的確是這樣。但仍有幾千人對我們公開談論的內容給予有價值的思考，而我可能寫下並發表的內容，也會幫助很多人。而那些對一切都感興趣的人，對我能接收、寫下和公開閱讀我們的談話的內容非常感激。這一點也通過信件、電話和電子郵件向我證明的事，還有個人對話，這些對話非常非常少，因為我對它們有所保留，但我們所有的對話內容，以及“真相的教導、造物能量的教導、生命的教導”（Teaching of Truth, Teaching of Creation-energy, Teaching of Life）的確幫助許多人找到自己，並能夠應對他們的生活。不知何故，我們的共同對話 —— 你們Plejaren和我的對話以及教導 —— 只是對那些真誠感興趣的人有幫助，他們會閱讀一切並從中學習，認真對待並有意識地為自己的利益而應用它。我一次又一次地聽到或讀到，那些認真地投入到教學和我們的談話中的人過得很好，他們已經擺脫了任何類型的信仰，學會了獨立思考，學會了自己做決定，並有意識地為自己行動，因此現在有了一種快樂和滿意的生活方式。僅僅對所有這些人類來說，我們公開進行對話，讓人類可以閱讀到，這一點過去和現在都很有價值，正如“靈識的教導” （Spiritual Teaching），我們現在正確地稱之為“真相的教導、造物能量的教導、生命的教導”，這一點幫助很大。我們繼續使用“靈識教導”的名稱 —— 順便說一下，Eva承擔了所有的運輸等責任。因為“靈魂”（spirit）這個錯誤的詞不會那麼快從世界上抹去。不幸的是，製作“靈識教導”小冊子和發送的整個過程也與成本有關，因此，我們也必須為所有事情收取費用，因為否則一切都無法完成。不幸的是，我們的世界就是這樣，因為一切都要花錢，都要依賴錢，因為沒有錢，一切都無法進行，這就是為什麼我們必須努力工作，以確保一切都能順利進行，該做的事都能做。即使我注意到一切都可以得到，也可以盡可能便宜地買到，也有必要，甚至需要正確分配稀缺的資金，並盡可能便宜地購買必要的材料。這也適用於食品，這就是為什麼 —— 因為我也買食品，並在這方面管理一切 —— 我們也可以與一切共存。在我5歲的時候，我就從我的父母那裡學到了關於財務的全部情況，因為我的父親作為一名市政工人和訓練有素的鞋匠，每月能掙到240至260瑞士法郎，而我的母親則要照顧我的姐姐Berta，以及我的弟弟Gottlieb和Karl，然後還要照顧我最小的妹妹Verena，她有嚴重的身體殘疾，之後，另一個落單的妹妹在50年代出生。因此，在1940年代，我們父母只有6個孩子，他們必須靠父親每月240至260法郎的收入來維持生計。1950年代，隨著另一個妹妹的出生，我們總共有7個孩子。在那個時候，家庭有許多孩子是很常見的。
There was no pocket money for us children, and at that time it was not usual for children to receive ‘pocket money’ from their parents, so my siblings and I had to earn it ourselves. We earned it by picking berries in the woods and selling them to the housewives, and also by collecting broken glass from the then frequent rubbish pits, which we could sell at the Bülach glassworks for 5 centimes per kilo. We also collected scrap metal in the waste pits, which we could sell to the scrap metal dealer who came by every month from Zurich on his bicycle and trailer. And to make sure we had enough to eat, I worked for the farmer’s wife Luise, where I helped cut and collect grass. Luise lived in the neighbourhood, ran a small farm and had a pitch-black smokehouse where bacon and smoked sausages were smoked. In addition, we could still ‘grasp’ in the military barracks, which meant that we could fetch food in milk pots from the military kitchen every day, so we always had enough to eat. This was arranged by relatives of ours who were catering in the military barracks. Sweets, such as chocolate etc., were a luxury we could not afford. Finally, one day, a woman on the street who worked in a factory in Jakobstal beckoned me over and heard about our large family. The woman, who was already older, explained that from then on she wanted to do something for us children and would bring a ‘centime’ resp. small coins and some chocolate, which I was of course happy about and thanked her for. After a while, however, an evil sectarian got hold of this and sued me at the municipality with the lie that I had begged from the woman in question and extorted money from her. In addition, this sectarian harangued me at every opportunity that I should find my way to the ‘Saviour’, because he would help me not to go begging, etc. Horat was the name of the woman, a believer and member of the Methodist sect, to whom I said that I did not need a ‘saviour’, after which she began to harass and bully me wherever she could. She would also often lie in wait for me and beat me up when she could catch me. And because I once told her that I did not believe in a God, angels or even a Saviour, but that I thought for myself and knew that all existence was simply a creational energy and nothing else, which had created everything, continued to create unstoppably and would one day let everything pass away again, only to create it again in a higher form, she got angry and shouted that she would get it for me and that I would experience my blue miracles, because God and His Son, the Saviour, would not allow themselves to be mocked. Unfortunately, this led to me spending my life … well, you know, because you know what has been going on through my life. Bernadette has also written a biography about me, which has so far resulted in 2 large volumes and clarifies (note: 2 or 3 more volumes will follow, because the first 2 only show the time up to the end of 1962) what really happened throughout my life due to the hatred of this Mrs. Horat, whereby even the authorities in high places of the canton played along badly and ensured that I was also treated badly in foreign countries.
我們這些孩子沒有零用錢，在當時，孩子們從父母那裡得到“零用錢”是不常見的，所以我和我的兄弟姐妹們必須自己掙錢。我們通過在樹林裡採摘漿果並賣給家庭主婦，以及從當時經常出現的垃圾坑裡收集碎玻璃來賺取微薄的利潤，我們可以在比拉赫（Bülach）玻璃廠以每公斤5生丁（centimes）的價格出售。我們還在垃圾坑裡收集廢金屬，可以賣給每個月騎著自行車和拖車從蘇黎世過來的廢金屬商。為了確保我們有足夠的食物，我為農夫的妻子Luise工作，幫助她割草和收草。Luise住在附近，經營著一個小農場，有一個黑黝黝的煙熏房，薰制臘肉和煙熏香腸。此外，我們還可以在軍營裡“搜刮”，這意味著我們每天都可以從軍事廚房裡用牛奶罐子獲取食物，所以我們總是有足夠的食物吃。這是由我們在軍營裡做餐飲的親戚安排的。糖果，如巧克力等，是我們買不起的奢侈品。終於有一天，街上有一位在Jakobstal工廠工作的女人向我招手，她聽說了我們這個大家庭的情況。這個女人已經上了年紀，她解釋說，從那時起，她想為我們這些孩子做點什麼，並會帶來一個“生丁” （centimes），也就是小硬幣和一些巧克力，我當然很高興並感謝她。然而，過了一會兒，一個邪惡的教派分子得到了這個消息，並在市政府起訴我，謊稱我向該婦女乞討，並向她勒索錢財。此外，這個教派的人一有機會就騷擾我，說我應該去找“救世主”，因為他能幫助我不用去乞討等等。Horat是這個女人的名字，她是衛理公會（Methodist）教派的信徒和成員，我對她說我不需要“救世主”，之後她開始在任何可能的地方騷擾和欺負我。她還經常埋伏在那裡等我，只要能抓到我就揍我一頓。因為我曾經告訴她，我不相信有上帝、天使甚至救世主，但我會自行思考，知道所有的存在只是一種造物的能量（creational energy），而非其他東西，祂創造了一切，並繼續不停創造，有一天會讓一切再次消失，只是以更高的形式再次創造，她很生氣，喊著說她會為我得到它，我將經歷我的藍色奇跡（blue miracles），因為上帝和他的兒子，救世主，不允許自己被嘲笑。不幸的是，這導致我的一生 … 嗯，妳知道的，因為妳知道我的一生中發生了什麼。Bernadette還寫了一本關於我的傳記，到目前為止已經寫了兩大卷，其中說明了（註：接下來還會有兩到三卷，因為前兩卷只顯示了到1962年底的時間）由於這位Horat夫人的仇恨而在我的一生中真正發生的事情，據此，甚至連州內的高層當局也與我相處得很糟糕，並使我在外國也受到了不好的待遇。
But what I still want to say is that my parents’ house, which my father had built himself with a construction company, became too small over the years, so he, mother and I dug up the ground on the west side of the house, where a cellar was then built and above it two rooms and an attic, and a veranda was added along the south-east side of the house. My parents and I worked diligently on this, as did my father’s friend, the plumber Fritz Seidel, who was responsible for making and installing the gutters. My sister Berta and my brothers Gottlieb and Karl were otherwise engaged, and they have all passed away, the two brothers, Karl in 1984, Gottlieb in 1997, the sisters Verena in 2000 and Berta in 2021, the parents also in the last century, father in 1989 and mother in 1994. So only Hedwig, born in 1950, and Heidi, born in 1958, remained so far, as of course I, who was born on 3.2.1937.
但我仍然想說的是，我父母的房子是我父親和一家建築公司自己建造的，這些年變得太小了，所以他、母親和我挖了房子西側的土地，然後在那裡建了一個地窖，上面有兩個房間和一個閣樓，並沿著房子的東南側加了一個陽台。我的父母和我為此辛勤工作，我父親的朋友、水電工Fritz Seidel也是如此，他負責水電工作和安裝排水溝。我的姐姐Berta和我的兩個弟弟Gottlieb和 Karl則從事其他工作，而他們都已經去世了，Karl在1984年，Gottlieb在1997年，妹妹Verena在2000年，姐姐Berta在2021年，父母也在上世紀去世了，父親在1989年，母親在1994年。所以到目前為止只剩下1950年出生的Hedwig和1958年出生的Heidi，當然還有1937年2月3日出生的我。
I know that, also I have learnt a lot from the annals of Sfath, because he has written down everything that has happened, also that he has let you see many things that are still a secret to Earth-humans and perhaps will remain one for all time. That he has let you see the whole Earth, also the depths and the manifold life in the seas, in the rain forests and in the mountains, etc., that he has described in his annals, consequently you were able to see more than is actually possible for an Earth-human.
我知道，我也從《Sfath的大事記要》（the annals of Sfath）中學到了很多，因為他寫下了所發生的一切，他還讓你看到了許多對地球人來說仍然是一個秘密的東西，也許將永遠是一個秘密。他讓你看到了整個地球，也看到了海洋、雨林和山脈中的深處和多種生命，等等，他在他的大事記要中描述了這些，因此你能夠看到比一個地球人實際可能看到的更多。
Yes, I have really seen and learned a great deal with Sfath, as I have also seen things that not only may, but will forever remain a mystery to earthlings. When I think alone of what I was allowed to observe with Sfath in the 1940s in the depths of the seas, such as the giant squid, which was 21 metres in length, as Sfath measured it, as well as the giant ship Titanic, which sank and was broken into 2 parts because it rammed an iceberg and sank, where the ship then sank, just torn into 2 parts, several hundred metres apart to a depth of almost 4,000 metres. I also learned from Sfath that even steel can be eaten away by bacteria, and he explained that around 30 species of bacteria will eat away at the ship in such a way that nothing will exist of the ship in 700 years. The Mariana Trench at around 11,000 metres depth of the sea was also something where he let me see how deep the sea actually is at the deepest point. Mud volcanoes in Indonesia were also something I could not observe anywhere else in the world in the way it was there. I will also never forget being in the high mountains of the Andes, where there is a huge desert and a huge salt lake, as well as making friends with an Andean bear that accompanied Sfath and me for days on end. The fact that he then took me back to the time of the Incas, as well as to other times and to earlier peoples around the world, whereby I saw, experienced and learned that many things were quite different from what the ‘clever’ ancient historians, the archaeologists etc., simply fantasise, assume and even coldly assert, is for me what they say, that the earthlings are being led around by the nose by the supposedly ‘knowing experts’ through their sick delusions of grandeur. That is why it is also pointless to try to correct their claims.
是的，我和Sfath一起真的看到並學到了很多東西，因為我也看到了對地球人來說不僅可能，而且將永遠是一個謎的東西。當我想到1940年代與Sfath一起在海洋深處觀察到的東西時，比如大王烏賊（giant squid），Sfath測量過牠的長度為21公尺，還有「鐵達尼號」（Titanic）巨輪，它的沉沒，因為撞上了冰山而被分成了兩部分，這艘船隨後沉沒，只是被撕成了兩部分，相隔幾百公尺，深度近四千公尺。我還從Sfath那裡瞭解到，即使是鋼鐵也會被細菌侵蝕，他解釋說，大約有三十種細菌會侵蝕這艘船，以至於七百年後這艘船將不復存在。在馬里亞納海溝（Mariana Trench），他還讓我看了海洋的最深處到底有多深，深度約為一萬一千公尺。印尼的泥漿火山也是我在世界其他地方無法觀察到的東西。我也永遠不會忘記在安地斯山脈（Andes）的高山上，那裡有一個巨大的沙漠和一個巨大的鹽湖，以及與一隻安第斯熊（Andean bear）交朋友，牠連續幾天陪伴我和Sfath。然後他把我帶回到印加人（Incas）的時代，以及其他時代和世界各地更早的民族，在那裡我看到、經歷並瞭解到許多事情，那是與近代一些“聰明的”古代歷史學家、考古學家等全憑幻想、假設甚至鐵口直斷的說法完全不同，對我來說，這就是他們所說的，地球人被所謂的“專業人士”透過他們病態的狂妄自大牽著鼻子走。這就是為什麼試圖糾正他們的說法也是毫無意義的。
Sfath let me see many things that remain hidden from the earthlings or will only be recognised in the distant future, such as the threadworms in the sea, whose real name I have forgotten, but which rise like long threads in the sea and are collected by the natives as food. The human beings are lied to many times by the assumptions of the antiquarians, who click their bogus findings as sure findings, which are, however, naked misstatements, because the truth is quite different.
I know that, but Earth-humans do not think about that at all, because they are traditionally believers regarding a might above them, but especially misled in terms of faith by believers in religion, who imagine the delusion of a Creator above them and have been spreading this since ancient times and misleadingly as false doctrine.
On Earth, religious believers have been manipulating Earth-humans since time immemorial by suggesting and indoctrinating the unstable and gullible with a God-Father and Creator. In terms of religion, everything is geared towards making the earthlings believe that a God is above everything, so it is not the human being who thinks and directs. But thinking is actually laughable, because a believing human being does not think, but believes, and the human being who is religious not only believes in a God-Creator, but in every nonsense that is told to him. It is not only the God-believing religionists, the pastors and preachers etc. who come to mind, but also the believers from the people and the other religious dignitaries as well as the rest of the fraudsters who swindle their money in the name of religion. Of all the religions, the Christian one stands out especially, which misteaches the nonsense of a ‘Son of God’ who is given the name ‘Jesus Christ’, but whose real name was Jmmanuel and who never taught the nonsense that is attributed to him to this day.
It is incomprehensible to me that human beings can believe such nonsense, as well as religious claims and lies resulting from religions, without hesitation and consider and accept them as truth. Surely this testifies to a lack of thinking and to the fact that the human being in question is so impressionable that truth remains foreign to him and he is so dependent on faith that it forms his actual purpose in life, from which he cannot get away, cannot exist without it and consequently can never be himself.
That is the point, because these human beings are unquestioning about their faith, which means that they do not think, but simply believe. This is because they are incapable of really thinking for themselves and of not being stupid because of the faith that has been suggested to them and indoctrinated into them. Not thinking is what is generally called stupidity, which means that the human being who does not think for himself is stupid. But this also means that it cannot be any kind of insult when a human being is told that he is stupid, for this only tells him that he does not think, and does not think truthfully, but only superficially in such a way that he is able to creep through his life and existence in accordance with his senses and aspirations. Stupidity, then, is nothing other than not thinking for oneself in a truthful way resp. in a way that is only superficial, faith-based and thus unrealistic, and thus far from the effective truth. In their faith, human beings are even of the erroneous opinion – opinion is in any case false, because it is not a truth, but an assumption – that effective truth is false and void, because they esteem their faith high and valuable and place it above all truth and every rational self-thinking. The human being regards faith much higher and as the correctness of truth, while he scorns effective truth and classifies it as a lie, consequently he cannot find it and endlessly rots in his personal faith and cannot get free from it. But as he walks along in religious faith, so he also leads his life, and that according to the age-old principle of “If you do not want to be my brother, I will smash your skull in”. And truly this thought, which has been ingrained in human beings since time immemorial, exists as a principle, consequently, they also use it for every evil form of self-defence as soon as something comes against them that does not correspond to their ideas and will.
這就是問題的關鍵，因為這些人對他們的信仰是不會質疑的，這意味著他們不去思考，而只是相信。這是因為他們沒有能力真正為自己思考，沒有能力思考向他們建議和灌輸的信仰而顯得愚蠢。畢竟，不思考就是一般所說的愚蠢，這意味著不為自己思考的人是愚蠢的。但這也意味著，當一個人被告知他是愚蠢的時候，這不是一種侮辱，因為這只是告訴他，他沒有思考，沒有確實地思考，而只是以這樣一種方式膚淺地思考，按照他的感覺和願望踽踽前行，度過他平凡的一生。那麼，愚蠢無非是沒有以真實的方式思考，而只是以一種膚淺、基於信仰、因而不現實的方式，從而遠離實際的真相。在他們的信仰中，人類甚至持有錯誤的觀點 —— 那些觀點在任何情況下都是錯誤的，因為它不是一個事實，而是一個假設 —— 認為實際的真相是虛假和無效的，因為他們認為他們的信仰是崇高而有價值的，並把它置於所有真相和每一個理性的自我思考之上。人類把信仰看得更高，認為那是正確的真相，而他卻蔑視實際的真相，把它歸類為謊言，因此他無法找到它而永無休止地在個人信仰中腐爛，無法從中解脫。但是，當他在宗教信仰中前行時，他也在按照古老的原則過著自己的生活，也就是“如果你不想成為我的兄弟，我就打碎你的腦袋”。這種原則自古以來就根深蒂固存在於人類的思想中，因此，一旦有不符合他們想法和意願的事情發生，他們就會用它來進行各種邪惡的自衛。
This selfish will in the believing human being is so firmly anchored in him that he represents it as a right and even starts and wages wars because of it, whereby he kills fellow human beings without hesitation if they are considered enemies. In this consequence, for the human being there are only friends and enemies, but not fellow human beings of equal value, whose life and existence should be respected, not murdered and thus not extinguished, but protected. But exactly the opposite is done by believing human beings; for they do not think for themselves, but believingly represent and do what the confused faith misleads and demands. Namely, that the enemy is to be exterminated and destroyed, as the phrase “if you do not want to be my brother, then I will smash your skull in” has demanded since time immemorial, just as it is written in the ‘Holy Scriptures’ that injustice is to be punished and the life of the wrongdoer is to be ended. This is to be done through revenge, in the form of the death penalty, with manslaughter, war and murder, as is currently happening again in Ukraine, where torture and murder are being carried out, without exception, on both sides of the opposing parties, whereby, however, one side is made to look like a pig almost worldwide and all evil deeds are attributed solely to the opposing party – in this case, Russia. This, while the war-monger and war criminal Selensky is lifted high and higher in the sky and Putin is put down. It is clear, however, that both sides are doing wrong, because war and torture, murder and manslaughter do not solve any problems, but only make things worse, as is also the case when war crimes are committed and blamed on the enemy, as is done without exception in Ukraine, as is done in every war. However, in the war in Ukraine, no warring party is better than the other, because both sides are in the wrong, because war and murder are not only reprehensible, but also unworthy of human beings and, in general, absolutely criminal with regard to the destruction of life.
這種自私的念頭在有信仰的人身上是如此根深蒂固，以至於他將其視為一種權利，甚至因此而發動戰爭，如果人類同胞被認為是敵人，他就會毫不猶豫地殺死他們。在這種情況下，對人類來說，只有朋友和敵人，而沒有非敵非友的一般人類同胞，而這些人的生命和存在也應該得到尊重，而不是被殺，因此不是被消滅，而是應該被善待。但信主的人所做的卻恰恰相反；因為他們不是為自己考慮，而是忠實地呈現並執行信仰中所誤導和要求的事情。也就是說，敵人要被消滅和摧毀，就像“如果你不想成為我的兄弟，那我就打碎你的腦袋”這句話自古以來就要求的，也正如《聖經》中寫的那樣，不公正的行為要受到懲罰，不法分子的生命要被結束。這將以復仇來完成，其形式是死刑、誤殺、戰爭和謀殺，就像目前在烏克蘭再次發生的那樣，在那裡，酷刑和謀殺戮毫無例外地發生在對立的雙方身上，然而，其中一方承受了全世界的譴責，所有邪惡的行為都完全歸咎於這一方 —— 也就是俄羅斯。這時，好戰的戰犯澤連斯基被捧得越來越高，而普京則被抨擊。然而，很明顯，雙方都在做錯事，因為戰爭和酷刑、謀殺和誤殺並不能解決任何問題，而只會使事情變得更糟，當犯下戰爭罪行而去歸咎敵人時，情況也是如此，在烏克蘭並無例外，每場戰爭都是這樣的。然而，在烏克蘭的戰爭中，沒有任何交戰方比另一方更好，因為雙方都有錯，戰爭和殺戮不僅應受到譴責，而且是人類的恥辱，總的來說，就摧毀生命而言，絕對是犯罪行為。
That America is behind the whole war in Ukraine, with NATO behind it, and that Selensky, as a lackey of the USA and NATO, is doing exactly what America wants, cannot be doubted, because only stupid people are not able to recognise this truth. Others, however, may not realise this because they are dependent on America or are simply afraid that the USA would get on their nerves. The very fact that America is spending billions of dollars to prop up the warmonger Selensky and urge him to continue to drag out the war should give pause for thought to those who are actually able to think halfway. Unfortunately, however, these persons who are still halfway capable of thinking are obviously not to be found in the governments, so that it is not possible to prove to those in power what is actually being played out with regard to Ukraine and that it is only a matter of furthering the plans of the American addiction to hegemony. Thus, the stupid rulers and the stupid of the people continue to advocate that weapons be supplied to the world’s begging and warmongering and lying and stupid Selensky, the non-thinking and simple-minded lackey of America. This, whereby the war, the war crimes as well as the rapes of women, the tortures and deadly massacres continue unchecked and go on longer and longer.
美國是整個烏克蘭戰爭的幕後推手，北約在背後支持，而澤連斯基作為美國和北約的走狗，所做的正是美國想要的，這一點不容置疑，因為只有愚蠢的人才無法認識到這個事實。然而，也有很多人可能不願承認這一點，因為他們依賴美國，或者只是害怕會惹怒美國。美國花費數十億美元支持戰爭販子澤連斯基，並敦促他繼續拖延戰爭，這一事實本身就應該讓那些真正能夠中途思考的人停下來思考。然而，不幸的是，這些還有半點思考能力的人顯然在政府中找不到，因此不可能向當權者證明，在烏克蘭問題上究竟在玩什麼花樣，這只是在推進美國人沉迷於霸權主義的計畫而已。因此，愚蠢的統治者和愚蠢的人民繼續主張向世界上的乞丐、好戰分子、說謊者和愚蠢的澤連斯基 —— 美國的缺發思考而頭腦簡單的走狗 —— 提供武器。這樣一來，戰亂、戰爭罪行以及強姦婦女、酷刑和致命的屠殺就不受控制地繼續下去，而且時間越拖越長。
The arms supplies and finances of America and the other states, as well as their sections of the pro-American and other bourgeoisie, are not ending the war in Ukraine by taking sides with Ukraine, but are prolonging it senselessly and criminally through their guilt. Particularly the rulers and supporters from the EU dictatorship and Germany are to be mentioned – as well as from various other countries – who in their stupidity do not recognise what is actually being played, that America with its NATO is behind everything and that all those are being misled and abused for their secret hegemony behaviour who are stupid enough to believe what is being presented to them by America and Selensky in a lying and truth-twisting manner.
美國和其他國家在武器和資金的供應，以及那些親美人士和其他資產階級的作為，並沒有透過站在烏克蘭這邊來結束烏克蘭的戰爭，而是通過他們的犯罪行為毫無意義地延長了戰爭。特別要提到的是來自歐盟獨裁國家和德國的執政者和支持者 —— 以及來自其他各個國家的執政者和支持者 —— 他們愚蠢地沒有認識到實際上正在上演的是什麼，美國及其北約是一切的幕後推手，所有那些為了他們的秘密霸權行為而被誤導和濫用的人，都愚蠢到相信美國和澤連斯基以謊言和扭曲事實的方式向他們展示的訊息。
Those who do or advocate the supplying of arms, they are all guilty of the war and the mass massacres of the population and the murder and assassination of the soldiers of the Ukrainian and Russian militaries and the many civilians – women, children and men – which could be avoided if arms were not supplied to Ukraine in an unthinking, biased and criminal manner. This is truly a criminal act that America’s leaders have planned and arranged from the very beginning in order to get closer to fulfilling their delusions of world domination. That Russia is to be forced down in the process, which has been the aspiration of America resp. its leaders and dark government for centuries, is now to be realised through the Ukraine war. This is now to become reality through the sham friend of America and the desired membership in the European Union, whereby the non-thinking and consequently stupid and power-addicted clown and actor Volodymyr Selensky was elected president of Ukraine, who has now truly become a conscienceless war criminal. This is because he can consciencelessly continue the war longer and longer in the interests of America by keeping the weapons of various states, because America, together with the American NATO, wants to bring the state of Russia under American rule. The fact that thousands of civilians are tortured and murdered in the process, both by the hostile Russian military and also by the Ukrainian military, only encourages one-sided hatred of Russia, because all the atrocities are usually attributed to the Russian army. However, the fact that the Ukrainian military also commits atrocities and rapes women, whom they then usually shoot and bury, is not mentioned and the good and brave ‘defenders of the country who are willing to sacrifice themselves’ are praised to the skies. You have been able to observe it yourself from the flying apparatus together with me, so you know that this is the truth.
The leaders of various states are stupid, America-loving and Selensky-loving as well as irresponsible elements who do not think and supply weapons and finances to Ukraine, because this prolongs the war, as well as the killing, torturing, massacring and destroying goes on endlessly. All the states and populations supplying weapons and finance for warfare are guilty of a world war that is being waged in this particular way of unilateral irresponsible arms assistance and which has never been seen before on Earth. The powerful leaders and large sections of the populations of the Western states, as well as the states and populations of the Eastern, Northern and Southern states which are in bondage to the Western states and America, are interfering in matters from which they should keep out, because their actions are none of their business, except for the forms of speaking out in mediation efforts for peace, for if states are supported which are attacked by war, then aid in the form of arms and other war material should not be supplied for this purpose, but in such a case it is imperative that through words of reason and rationality it be peacefully sought and settled that the warlike debacle be brought to an end. This, however, is not being observed with regard to the war between Ukraine and Russia; instead, the opposite and irresponsible partisan action is being taken in such a way that the disaster of the war is continuing all the more through partisan deliveries of weapons to Ukraine, which are being used against the aggressor Russia, whereby nothing is being gained, but only lost – above all many valuable human lives, as well as through senseless destruction of human achievements that are important for well-being, prosperity, progress and health.
All of the war in Ukraine – as has been the case since time immemorial in various states of the Earth in which America has waged war and since then has had its offshoots and permanent stations in these states – is clearly in the hegemonic sense of America and also in the aspirations of its dark government. This inevitably creates the danger that America will be in charge in those various states of Earth in which it has already crept in, warlike or otherwise, so that these states will be unintentionally affected, whether they like it or not.
在烏克蘭的所有戰爭 —— 正如自古以來美國在地球上的各個國家發動戰爭，並從那時起在這些國家建立了分支和永久駐地的情況一樣 —— 顯然是在美國的霸權意義上的也符合其黑暗政府的願望。這不可避免地造成了一種危險，那就是美國將在地球上那些它已經悄悄進入的各個國家中掌權，無論是好戰的還是不好戰，這些國家將在無意中受到影響，不管他們喜歡與否。
The coming time of the future will bring much more harm than good, as you know from your observations when you watched and saw the development of the future with Sfath. In particular, the inexperienced, intellectually and rationally limited persons in the state leadership and among the population are to blame for the fact that the war between Ukraine and Russia has not yet come to an end, but is still raging on and spreading death, ruin and destruction. The whole thing also leads to the fact that other states and their stupid and power-obsessed, irresponsible leaders start wicked attacks and wars with neighbouring states and plunge the world into turmoil, distress and misery, with human beings being murdered again indiscriminately, women being raped, killed and senseless destruction being caused. The war in Ukraine is an incentive for the leaders of other states to also unleash warlike attacks and actions and to impose war on neighbouring countries, consequently the Ukraine war will unleash coming examples, as you know.
Yes, you are right, because unfortunately all that is coming is more than unpleasant. Everything is party-related, whereby, if I may mention names, especially in Germany Baerbock and in the EU dictatorship von der Leyen are the main actors who carry out their shameful work in a war-mongering way and indoctrinate the various fellow travellers of the parties and make the same sense as they themselves do. With their hate speech against Russia, they make all misery and hardship worse, bigger and more comprehensive, and thereby encourage like-minded people to support the delivery of weapons to Selensky to be used in the war against Russia. As a counter-reaction, Russia cuts off the important gas against the West, but this is the fault of the Western countries themselves, namely that they interfere in the war in a partisan way and fulfil Selensky’s begging for weapons. And that America with its NATO is behind it all and is really the ringleaders of the Ukraine war because they want to ‘capture’ Russia – of which the decent and good of the American population know nothing because they are lied to and deceived by the fallible of the government and the shadow government that remains in the dark and are consequently innocent and ignorant of the secret hegemonic policy machinations and intelligence crimes, etc. -This does not occur to the stupid leaders and those of their populations of other countries, who diligently shout their pro and hurrah for Russia to be more and more reviled resp. discredited. Of course, Russia should not be excused and lifted to the skies and portrayed as better than it really is, because a state that wages war is always in the wrong, even if it is provoked to do so, as happened by America and NATO, with the EU dictatorship also secretly involved in the background, although only a few are aware of this. But mainly it was America that provoked the war in order to further satisfy the delusion of hegemony and to further expand the NATO murderous organisation’s killing field. But America will go the way it has also gone with many other states and peoples since time immemorial, for it will one day disappear from the map as the state of the USA – even if it will only be in the distant future. But it will then be a fact that the world power America will one day commit suicide through its behaviour of hegemony, as it has already become the fate of other world powers at earlier times on Earth. America’s downfall as a state, the USA, will be inevitable; it will not be defeated from the outside, but it will destroy itself from within, as has already been attempted in Switzerland by idiots in the Bern government, in that Switzerland’s neutrality has been very seriously damaged because sanctions against Russia have been adopted by the EU dictatorship and applied against Russia. Not to mention the danger that was to be taken by having Switzerland conduct military manoeuvres together with the murderous organisation NATO.
是的，妳說對了，因為不幸所有即將到來的事情都是不愉快的。一切都與政黨有關，因此，如果我可以提到名字的話，特別是在德國的貝伯克和歐盟的獨裁者馮德萊恩是主要的行為者，他們以鼓吹戰爭的方式開展可恥的工作，並向各政黨的各種同路人灌輸他們的觀點，使其去做與他們同樣的事情。他們用針對俄羅斯的仇恨言論，使所有的苦難和困難變得更嚴重、更大、更全面，從而鼓勵志同道合的人支持向澤連斯基運送武器，用於對俄戰爭。作為反擊，俄羅斯切斷了針對西方的重要天然氣，但這是西方國家自己的錯，他們以黨派的方式干預戰爭，滿足澤連斯基對武器的乞求。還有，美國與它的北約是這一切的幕後推手，是烏克蘭戰爭的真正帶頭人，因為他們想“征服”俄羅斯 —— 對此，美國民眾中的正派和善良的人一無所知，因為他們被政府和影子政府的忽悠和欺騙，他們仍然蒙在鼓裡，因此對秘密的霸權政策陰謀和情報犯罪等是無辜而無知的。其他國家的愚蠢的領導人和他們的人民沒有想到這一點，他們努力地喊出他們的支持和歡呼，讓俄羅斯越來越多地受到謾駡和詆毀。當然，俄羅斯不應該被原諒，不應該被捧上天，不應該被描繪成比實際情況更好的國家，因為一個發動戰爭的國家總是有錯的，即使它是被激怒了，這是美國和北約的陰謀，歐盟的獨裁者也在後台秘密參與，儘管只有少數人知道這方面。但主要是美國挑起了戰爭，以進一步滿足霸權主義的妄想，進一步擴大北約這個殺人組織的殺戮領域。但是，美國將會走上自古以來與許多其他國家和民族一樣的道路，因為有一天會以美國這個國家從地圖上消失 —— 即使這只是在遙遠的未來。但這將是一個事實，世界強國美國有一天將通過其霸權行為自殺，因為這已經成為地球上其他世界大國在早期的命運。美國作為一個國家，美國的衰落將是不可避免的；它不會從外部被打敗，但它將從內部摧毀自己，正如伯恩政府中的白癡已經在瑞士嘗試過的那樣，因為歐盟獨裁政權通過了對俄羅斯的制裁，而瑞士也配合對俄羅斯實施了制裁，所以瑞士的中立性受到了非常嚴重的破壞。更不用說讓瑞士與兇殘的北約組織一起進行軍事演習所帶來的危險了。
Well, America resp. the USA, will not exist forever, because as a state it is destroying and self-destructing from within, for which the process of dissolution of the state, although still continuing for a long time, began a long time ago. This process has been continued and kept alive, actually unconsciously, by the German descendant President Trump, so that the coming demise of America as a state will one day – in the still distant future – become reality. The USA will lose its hegemony and thus the world power that is hoped for and aspired to in this regard, which is currently still America’s endeavour; precisely to win world supremacy. However, the fact that the USA is already in the process of a creeping suicide resp. suicide, which has been evident for some time now through certain symptoms, is not yet recognised by anyone, because no one thinks about it, but simply lives into the day. The USA, resp. its powerful, still think of themselves as a superpower, because many technical achievements convey a sense of security, which, however, has already begun to crumble in its foundations, which will one day bring its downfall.
好吧，美國不會永遠存在，因為作為一個國家，它正在從內部進行破壞和自我毀滅，為此，國家的解體過程雖然仍在持續很長時間，但很早以前就開始了。這個過程被德國後裔川普（Trump）總統在不知不覺中延續並保持著活力，所以美國作為一個國家即將到來的滅亡，將有一天 —— 在仍然遙遠的未來 —— 成為現實。美國將失去其霸權，從而失去在這方面所希望和嚮往的世界強權，這目前仍是美國的努力方向；正是為了贏得世界霸權。然而，事實上美國已經處於一個緩慢的自殺過程中，這在一段時間內已經通過某些症狀表現出來了，但還沒有人認識到，因為沒有人去想它，而只是活在當下。美國，其強大的國家，仍然認為自己是一個超級大國，因為許多技術成就傳達了一種安全感，然而，這種安全感的基礎已經開始崩潰，總有一天會導致它的垮台。
America underestimates the ruthlessness of its hegemonic behaviour, and it also underestimates its democratic future, because within itself there is a ruthless willingness to use violence and discontent in very many human beings of the American population. Already the ancient immigrants, mainly from Europe, created networks of hatred against the original population, the Indians, and the ‘Wild West’ also took its inglorious role in killing many human beings. This, as wars also raged in America and slavery was big in trade, when in Africa etc. the human beings of a different colour were robbed and chained, shipped and brought to America – if they survived at all, for example, when a storm broke out on the high seas and the chained slaves were simply thrown overboard because the ship had to be lightened in the storm and swell. The human beings who were robbed and chained were pulled alive by the heavy chains into the deep waters of the sea and thus left to die. Among the many Europeans who kept slaves in America and made great business and profits from the work of the shackled slaves were also Swiss, such as the builder of the Linth Canal and the Schätti confectionery manufacturer.
美國低估了其霸權行為的殘酷性，也低估了其民主的未來，因為在其內部，許多人有一種無情的使用暴力和不滿的情緒。早先的移民，主要是來自歐洲的移民，已經建立了針對原住民，也就是印第安人的仇恨關係，而“狂野的西部”也在殺害許多人方面扮演了不光彩的角色。這是因為戰爭在美國肆虐，奴隸貿易在非洲也很盛行，不同膚色的人被掠劫並綁架，用船運到美國 —— 如果他們倖存下來的話，例如，當公海上發生風暴時，被拴住的奴隸會被直接扔到海裡，因為船在風暴和大浪中必須輕重量。被綁架並鎖住的人，被沉重的鐵鍊活生生拉進大海的深水中，就這樣任其自生自滅。許多歐洲人在美國飼養奴隸，並從帶著鐐銬的奴隸的勞動中賺取了巨額的利潤，其中也有瑞士人，如林特運河（Linth Canal）的建造者和Schätti糖果製造商。
America profited from the slaves who were flayed and murdered, with the murderer-secret society Ku Klux Klan in particular playing the leading role as a murderous race hater, and to some extent still playing it today. And that America’s first president was a murderer who shot a peace negotiator for no reason, who wore a white flag and could not even utter a word of his noble cause of negotiating peace, that was obligingly concealed and never made public. And indeed there would be more such incidents to say, but what has been said should be enough to understand that America is not what it claims to be.
美國從那些被剝皮和謀殺的奴隸身上獲利，特別是殺人的秘密社團三K黨（Ku Klux Klan）扮演了殺人的種族仇恨者的主角，而且在某種程度上至今仍在扮演這種角色。還有，美國的第一任總統就是個殺人犯，他無緣無故地槍殺了一位和平談判代表，這名談判代表身披白旗，甚至對他的和平談判這一崇高使命連一句話還來不及說就犧牲了，這件大事被刻意隱瞞，從未公之於眾。事實上，還會有更多這樣的事可以說，但已經說過的內容應該足以讓人明白，美國並不是它所宣稱的那樣。
Well, the USA as a state will one day self-destruct and disintegrate from within itself and from within itself, because the USA state structure is only a sham, isolating itself from its own people and from the rest of the world through its ‘internal security’. America distrusts everything and everyone and refuses to sit at its own table to anyone who wants to bring true law as well as good, humanity and humanly just laws to the country. America has always had presidents and lackeys around it, as well as all over the world, who simply carry out orders and commit murder and wage wars without hesitation, interfere with intelligence services everywhere and cause mischief and unconscionably extinguish human lives. And this is done, advocated and ordered by the American leadership, causing hardship and misery, as well as the greatest damage, also by the religious sects that exist in America and are created again and again, some of which fathers and sect members do not shy away from sexual abuse of daughters or other child abuse – as with Catholic ‘dignitaries’ – and also from enrichment through murder. However, if anyone dares to speak the truth about it, they are threatened with life, as happened to me when I once said something against the practices of ….
那麼，美國作為一個國家，總有一天會從自身和內部自我毀滅和解體，因為美國的國家結構只是一個假像，通過其“內部安全”將自己與自己的人民和世界其他國家隔離開來。美國不信任一切，不信任每一個人，並拒絕與任何想給這個國家帶來真正的法律以及善良、人道和人類正義的人坐在自己的桌旁。美國周圍以及世界各地一直有其掌權者的走狗，他們只是執行命令，毫不猶豫地進行謀殺和發動戰爭，干涉各地的情報部門，造成禍害，肆意殺害人命。而這些都是由美國領導層所做、宣導和命令的，造成無數的苦難和悲痛，以及極嚴重的破壞，同時也是由美國存在的宗教教派一次又一次造成的，其中一些父親和教派成員並不迴避對女兒的性虐待或其他兒童的虐待 —— 就如天主教的“權貴”一樣 —— 也不迴避通過謀殺致富。然而，如果有人敢於說出真相，他們就會受到生命的威脅，就像我曾經說過的反對 … 的做法那樣。
America already believes that it is the ruler of the world, but this illusory empire will one day become a mirage that will shatter, because the USA will inevitably isolate itself from the rest of the world, even if this is not yet visible and recognisable to many human beings, but is already the still hidden beginning of its downfall. On top of all this, there is climate change, whereby America is unable to interpret the climatic warning signs and is also inexorably running to its doom in this respect over time. Not to mention the Corona plague, which is also claiming many victims in America, as well as pompousness and criminality and actual crime and murder, etc., surpassing anything that can still be called ‘normal’.
War is and remains America’s profession for conquering the world, and just as it was looking for a reason to attack North Korea in 1964, it is now desperately looking for one to intervene directly – and not secretly as it has done up to now – together with its NATO in the war in Ukraine. America also wants to dominate Ukraine and ‘adapt’ it to the West and is blaming all the evils in Ukraine on the Russians. Along with you, Bermunda, I have seen Ukrainian military pro forma ‘fighting’ firing into the air, running patrols and ‘attacks’ that were truthfully just staged and made for news against the Russians. It was also interesting that in the war reports on TV, many buried bodies were found in a forest, allegedly massacred by the Russians, yet Christian wooden crosses were placed on the graves throughout, which is really so unusual and strange that one has to wonder why the enemy still honours its victims on the graves with Christ crosses?
戰爭曾是而且目前仍然是美國征服世界的專業，就像它在1964年尋找一個理由攻擊朝鮮一樣，它現在也在拼命尋找一個理由，直接干預 —— 而不是像它迄今為止所做的那樣秘密干預 —— 與它的北約一起參與烏克蘭戰爭。美國也想主宰烏克蘭，讓它“適應”西方，並將烏克蘭的所有罪惡歸咎於俄羅斯人。和妳一樣，Bermunda，我也看到了烏克蘭軍方對空射擊那樣形式上的“戰鬥”，巡邏和“攻擊”，這些都是真實上演的，是為了反對俄羅斯人而演出的新聞。同樣有趣的是，在電視上的戰爭報導中，在一片森林中發現了許多被埋葬的屍體，據說是被俄羅斯人屠殺的，然而基督教的木質十字架卻自始至終放在墳墓上，這實在是太不尋常和奇怪了，讓人不得不懷疑敵人為什麼還要在墳墓上用基督的十字架來紀念受害者？
What is clear is that the Americans want to dominate Ukraine and thus Russia one day, which is why everything was also done to make Putin lose patience and start the war, which has now lasted half a year and can go on for a long time due to the stupidity of the arms suppliers, which undoubtedly plays into the hands of America and the NATO murdering organisation.
America is deceiving not only its own people but the whole world about the real USA intentions. All war crimes committed by the Ukrainian military are categorically and despite evidence denied, falsified and furthermore blamed on the Russians, also self-firing and self-bombing, as we could observe ourselves together. But the truth is presented as ‘fake’ by the Russophobes and thus everything is distorted.
America has more internal enemies than can be imagined, who are doing much to bring about the end of this state, even though it will be a long time before that happens. America will be hit with the full force of repressive Gewalt from within when the still clandestine opposition will one day abruptly reveal what it actually wants. Many tens of thousands will one day – as has already happened with Trump – not only take to the streets in protest, but take violent action to overthrow the government and put an end to the madness of US hegemony and its own state.
美國有比想像中更多的內部敵人，他們正在做很多事情來促成這個國家的終結，儘管這將是一個很長的時間才會發生。當仍處於秘密狀態的反對派有一天突然暴露出它真正想要的東西時，美國將受到來自內部壓迫性力量的全面打擊。數以萬計的人有一天會 —— 就像已經發生在川普身上的那樣 —— 不僅上街抗議，而且採取暴力行動推翻政府，結束美國霸權的瘋狂和它自己的國家。
This is another word from you that makes the truth so openly clear, as only a thinking human being is capable of expressing it and, moreover, knows the future. However, I ask you whether it is good if you write down later in the discussion report what you said about the future, what it will bring for America? We should not give exact predictions, but what you said, that …
Do not worry, because I did not say when the whole thing of the prediction will happen. So everything remains unclear and so speculative that it cannot be determined when the prediction will happen and be fulfilled. Human beings, however, who are truly capable of observation and clear thinking, already see the signs of what is coming at the present time, but they will be prevented from doing anything about it. As is usual on Earth, it will continue that those who really think and know, who are also able to honestly assess and recognise the truth, will be cut and not heard, but branded as conspirators and demonised in every conceivable form. So they will not be listened to but will be shouted down and vilified.
Then, however, I want to thank you for saying a word regarding the fact that human beings were robbed in Africa, thrown into the sea or had to eke out a living as slaves in America, and that this also included notable Swiss slave owners who …
… thank you, but there would be a lot more to say about that, only there is not enough time. There are other things to talk about which are not for the ears of others than yours, but of these later. – My thoughts are that all human beings should be treated equally and, moreover, as human beings, whether they are likeable or not, whether they are in the right or in the wrong, whether they express themselves and behave as friends resp. friends or in a hostile manner. The human being should also not harbour and cultivate prejudices against his fellow human beings, but always strive to find out the truth about his neighbour and to see, accept and treat him as a human being in one way or another. In doing so, however, it is important not to conceal what is wrong and thus what is defective about a human being, but to name it unsparingly. It is certainly not acceptable that a human being should be kept as a slave, that he should be forced to work at all, and that racial hatred should exist and human beings should be murdered, and this also not through war, the death penalty in the form of the law, out of a desire for profit, hatred or any form of relationship, out of love, misery and need, fear, greed, addiction or anything else.
You are voicing what also had to be learnt by our ancestors, but which only happened more than 52,000 years ago when …
… Excuse me, but I know that, because I know what happened then. But what is involved now is drawing the likenesses of Elijah, Jeremiah and Mohammed. Ptaah told me that you could draw these well from memory.
Yes, I can, however I am not very skilled in this art.
It will be good enough for us to use the drawings though, I am sure. Just a moment – here, you have paper. If you need more, you can just take it out of the photocopier, because I am going over to the flat because I have got to do something, after which I’ll come back here, of course. So until then, it takes maybe about 10 to 15 minutes.
不過我相信我們用這些畫就足夠了。請稍等 —— 這裡，給妳紙。如果妳需要更多，妳可以從影印機裡拿出來，因為我要去公寓一趟，我得做一些事情，之後我當然會回到這裡。所以在那之前，可能需要10到15分鐘。
That will be about the time it takes me to do the 3 portraits.
Good, see you then …
There you are back. It was about 15 minutes and your coming is correct because I just finished the drawings. If you want to write on these, this is Jeremiah, this portrait is Elijah and this is Mohammed. You can be sure that the drawings really do represent the likeness of Elijah, Jeremiah and Mohammed, and that is as I remember the pictures that are kept with us in the library ball.
I have no doubt about that, and as I look at your works, I remember that they really do look like those pictures I saw in the library. Thank you very much for your work.
The drawing was something I enjoyed doing, I also enjoyed it and took turns.
It is good then. Thank you again. Bernadette can then read in the drawings so that I can include them in the discussion report. Thank you for your effort of drawing.
It was really a pleasure.
I am glad to hear that. But now I would like to discuss some things with you that are of a private nature and that I do not want to call up and write down later.
Of course, but after that I must go because I have to get back to my duties which I interrupted and came here to let you know first that I am here again.
That is really sweet of you. Then I will not take long and bring up the following … … …
妳真好。那我就不多說，只說以下事情 … … …
Jeremia, drawn by Bermunda
Elia, drawn by Bermunda
Mohammed, drawn by Bermunda