FIGU论坛问答 – Near Death Experience-II

资讯源头:FIGU/ ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier

资讯主题:FIGU论坛问答 之 “Near Death Experience”
资讯来源:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/..(资讯链接随问题注释)
内容中译:Leonkidz
校译日期:2019年06月14日,周五
推送类型:中文域-[中译]
资讯备注:这是一篇非正式且未经授权的中译版资讯,内容基于英文源版译制,请注意我们的译文可能存在错误。
资讯注释:FIGU论坛上的回复不一定都是Billy本人做出的,也有可能是经由「Semjase Silver Star Center/Semjase银星中心」的核心小组成员转达Billy的意思;又或依据Billy的教导和解释做出的说明。

Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy
Billy,您好

I have seen many interviews with people who have had near death experiences.
我曾见过很多…有过「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」的人…接受的采访。

Most all claim to see a beautiful place that has a great sense of peace and love associated with it.
他们中的大多数都声称看到了一个美丽的地方,这个地方有一种与之相关的、强烈的「Peace/和平」与「Love/爱」的感觉。

Some are given a choice to stay or go back.
一些人可以选择留在那里…又或是返回。

Some report having electrical appliances blow up around them afterwards.
一些人报告称…(这使得)在那之后,他们周边的一些电器…发生了爆炸。

Is there a life review at the time of death or is this all just in their imagination?
在死亡之时,是否存在一种‘life review/人生回顾’呢(?),还是,这一切仅仅只是他们的「Imagination/想象」?

Door_knocker
Door_knocker (post no.3)

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Imagination.
「Imagination/想象」。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy,
Billy,您好,

What sort of scientific experiments have you or the Plejaren done in the past that can help me understand your answer to my question about what happens to us when we die.
您或Plejaren是否曾在过去做过什么种类的‘scientific experiments/科学实验’,可以帮助我(更好地)理解您对我问题做出的答复(?),也就是关于…当我们死亡时会发生什么(?)。

You stated that anything people claim to experience when they briefly die is simply their imagination.
您陈述道:人们所声称的…在他们(‘experience/经历’)‘briefly die/短暂死亡’时…所‘experience/体验’到的任何事,都只是他们的「Imagination/想象」。

This answer doesn’t make sense to me when all the facts are considered.
(但…)当考虑到所有这些‘facts/现实’时,这个答案对我来说…又是讲不通的。

Many people come back from a near death experience with new factual information they had never known before.
许多从某种「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」中‘come back/回来’的人,都带回了他们之前从未知悉的、‘new factual information/新的真实信息’。

The factual accuracy of this new information they obtain makes your claim they are having imaginary experiences seem completely wrong.
他们获得的这一新信息的真实准确性,使得您声称他们是‘having imaginary experiences/经历了想象体验’的说法,看起来完全站不住脚。

Is your answer is based on scientific fact?.
您的答案…是基于‘scientific fact/科学事实’吗?

There is one very important and positive side effect of a near death experience that should be considered by everyone.
「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」有一种非常重要且积极的‘side effect/副作用’,(对此)每一个人都应该考虑到。

Almost all near death experiences result in a more loving and focused person.
几乎所有的「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」都会导致一个人…更有爱心且更加专注。

These people seem to suddenly become very aware of life’s true meaning and purpose.
这些人似乎…突然间就深刻意识到了…‘life/生命’的真正意义和目的。

Wouldn’t it be great if all the world’s leaders could somehow experience the other side for a few moments and then come back and rule with so much more wisdom and love.
如果世界上所有的‘leaders/领导人’都能以某种方式‘experience/体验’一会儿‘the other side/另一边’,然后‘come back/回来’…并以如此更多的「Wisdom/智慧」和「Love/爱」来统治的话,那岂不是很棒(?)。

If their was a perfect machine that could help me visit the place NDE (near death experience) persons have visited, I would sign up for a connection to that machine in ernest.
如果有一台完美的机器,它能够帮助我访问…有过「NDE」(「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人访问过的…那个地方的话,那我会很认真地报名与那台机器相连。

Do the Plejaren have such a machine?
Plejaren是否有一种这样的机器呢?

Have they used it scientifically to prove your answer is accurate?
他们是否有科学地使用它(这台机器)…来证明您的答案是准确无误的呢?

Is your answer simply yours and the Plejaren’s opinion or is it factual and proveable?
您的回答是仅代表您本身和Plejaren的观点,还是,这是根据事实且可证明的呢?

Sincerely and respectfully, Doorknocker
真诚而恭敬地祝愿,Doorknocker

我的‘handle/昵称’是基于圣经中的诗句…类似于‘Knock and the door will be opened to you/敲门,则大门将向你敞开’。
My handle is based on the biblical verse that goes similar to ‘Knock and the door will be opened to you.’

You have opened many doors for me Billy.
您已经为我开启了很多扇门,Billy。

I agree that belief is completely illogical.
我同意…‘belief/信念’是完全不合逻辑的。

I just want to know the facts behind your answer on this one.
我只想知道…您有关这一问题的答案…背后的‘facts/真相’。

Door_knocker
Door_knocker (post no.4)

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

You cannot prove this by a ‘scientific experiment’.
你不能用‘scientific experiment/科学实验’来证明这一点。

A human being can prove this to himself if his consciousness-related evolutionary level has progressed enough.
如果一名「Human Being/人类」,他「Consciousness-related/与意识(层面)相关的」‘evolutionary level/进化水平’已经取得了足够进展的话,那他自己就能证明这一点。

The experiences made by the personalities of the Nokodemion-Henok spirit form (which encompass billions of years) – through a process of a huge number of reincarnations – prove the correctness of the information.
由「Nokodemion-Henok」(的)「Spirit Form/灵魄」(有数十亿年之久)的「Personalities/人格」,透过一个大量「Reincarnations/转世」的‘process/进程’…所获取到的‘experiences/经验’,(已经)证明了这一信息的正确性。

Experiences during a near-death situation have nothing in common with real death and the following existence in the other world (Jenseits).
在‘near-death situation/濒死情况’下的‘Experiences/经历’,与真正的死亡以及随后在另一个世界(「Jenseits/另一边」)的存在,没有任何共同之处。

Such people have not more knowledge than before the accident etc., but they are deeply impressed by the effects they have experienced during their near-death state.
这些人的「Knowledge/知识」并不比…(他们)遭遇事故等…之前更多,但他们对…他们在其‘near-death state/濒死状态’下所‘experienced/体验到’的效应…印象深刻。

Falsely assuming that they had been on the other side of death, they lose their angst of death, and this fundamentally changes their view of life.
错误地假设…他们曾到过死亡的‘the other side/另一边’,使他们失去了对死亡的焦虑,这从根本上改变了他们对‘life/生命’的看法。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy.
Billy,您好。

Last time I posted, I asked about people who have had NDE’s (Near Death Experiences).
我在上次发帖时,曾问及…有过「NDE」(「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」)的人。

I commented that these people have reported coming back from these experiences with ‘New’ previously unknown factual information they had no previous knowledge of.
我当时评论道:这些人报告说,他们从这些‘experiences/经历’-‘coming back/回来’,并带回了‘New/新’的、之前并不知悉的‘factual information/真实信息’,这些信息是他们之前不了解的。

Your response was that these people were basically having an imaginary experience.
您的回应是:这些人基本上是‘having/经历’了一种想象的‘experience/体验’。

How can someone imagion true facts they had never in their life known before.
但一个人如何能想象到…在其之前的‘life/生命’中从未可知的…‘true facts/真实事实’呢?

I would think this is impossible and illogical.
我会认为…这是不可能且不合逻辑的。

I also asked if you or the Plejeran had ever actually experimented with NDE’s.
我还曾问过…您或Plejaren是否真的有对「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」)做过实验。

You response was that what happens to us when we die can never be proven.
您当时的回答是:‘what happens to us when we die/当我们死亡时会发生什么’…永远都无法被证明。

Proof can be gathered with experimentation.
证据可以通过实验…被搜集。

If no one ever experiments on this topic then of course nothing about the death experience can be learned or proven.
如果没有人在这个问题上做过实验,那当然…也就没有关于‘death experience/死亡经历’的事情…能够被知悉或证明。

What happens between our old life and our new one would be great information to have.
在我们旧有的‘life/生命’和新‘life/生命’之间发生的事情,将会是(我们获知的)‘great information/重大信息’。

My point is what happens to us when we die can be experimented with and proven.
我的观点是:‘what happens to us when we die/当我们死亡时会发生什么’(…这个问题),可以被验证和证明。

We have the technology to do this even now.
即便是在当下,我们也已经有技术可以做到这一点。

It seems your view of what happens to us when we die is your belief only and not something you know for sure.
看起来,您对于…‘what happens to us when we die/当我们死亡时会发生什么’…的观点,只是您的‘belief/信念’,而不是您确信的什么事。

I thought you and the Plejerans never talk about what you believe, only what you know.
我想您和Plejaren永远都不会谈论您‘believe/相信’的,而只会谈论您知道的。

I am very curious to hear your response.
我非常期待听到您的回应。

Thank You
谢谢您

Door_knocker
Door_knocker (post no.5)

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

If it is really (!) the case that they have gathered new facts it is by intuition, but certainly not information from the other side / the other world.
如果‘case/情况’真的(!)是:他们凭直觉搜集到了新的‘facts/事实’,那(这些‘facts/事实’)肯定不是从‘the other side/另一边’/‘the other world/另一个世界’…来的信息。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

What’s beyond death cannot be experimented and proven, at least not with terrestrial science.
超越死亡的事物无法被验证和证明,至少用「Earth/地球」的科学无法做到这些。

Earth scientiste have not even yet detected spiritual energy or that there are seven stages/levels down from the atom!
「Earth/地球」科学家甚至尚未探测到‘spiritual energy/精神性能量’(…的存在),又或是…在「Atom/原子」之下…还有七个阶段/层次!


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Your Answers about Near Death Experiences were..
您之前对「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」的回答是…


Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

You cannot prove this by a ‘scientific experiment’.
你不能用‘scientific experiment/科学实验’来证明这一点。

A human being can prove this to himself if his consciousness-related evolutionary level has progressed enough.
如果一名「Human Being/人类」,他「Consciousness-related/与意识(层面)相关的」‘evolutionary level/进化水平’已经取得了足够进展的话,那他自己就能证明这一点。

The experiences made by the personalities of the Nokodemion-Henok spirit form (which encompass billions of years) – through a process of a huge number of reincarnations – prove the correctness of the information.
由「Nokodemion-Henok」(的)「Spirit Form/灵魄」(有数十亿年之久)的「Personalities/人格」,透过一个大量「Reincarnations/转世」的‘process/进程’…所获取到的‘experiences/经验’,(已经)证明了这一信息的正确性。

Experiences during a near-death situation have nothing in common with real death and the following existence in the other world (Jenseits).
在‘near-death situation/濒死情况’下的‘Experiences/经历’,与真正的死亡以及随后在另一个世界(「Jenseits/另一边」)的存在,没有任何共同之处。

Such people have not more knowledge than before the accident etc., but they are deeply impressed by the effects they have experienced during their near-death state.
这些人的「Knowledge/知识」并不比…(他们)遭遇事故等…之前更多,但他们对…他们在其‘near-death state/濒死状态’下所‘experienced/体验到’的效应…印象深刻。

Falsely assuming that they had been on the other side of death, they lose their angst of death, and this fundamentally changes their view of life.
错误地假设…他们曾到过死亡的‘the other side/另一边’,使他们失去了对死亡的焦虑,这从根本上改变了他们对‘life/生命’的看法。

— —Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 – 07:18 pm
— —2011年08月27日,周六,19:18

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

If it is really (!) the case that they have gathered new facts it is by intuition, but certainly not information from the other side / the other world.
如果‘case/情况’真的(!)是:他们凭直觉搜集到了新的‘facts/事实’,那(这些‘facts/事实’)肯定不是从‘the other side/另一边’/‘the other world/另一个世界’…来的信息。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

What’s beyond death cannot be experimented and proven, at least not with terrestrial science.
超越死亡的事物无法被验证和证明,至少用「Earth/地球」的科学无法做到这些。

Earth scientist have not even yet detected spiritual energy or that there are seven stages/levels down from the atom!
「Earth/地球」科学家甚至尚未探测到‘spiritual energy/精神性能量’(…的存在),又或是…在「Atom/原子」之下…还有七个阶段/层次!

— —Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 – 08:07 am
— —2012年03月26日,周一,08:07


Thank You for sharing your thoughts about what happens to us when we die.
感谢您分享对…‘what happens to us when we die/我们死亡时会发生什么’…的‘thoughts/想法’。

I really don’t understand what you mean by ‘A human being can prove this to himself..’
我真的不太明白您所说的…‘一个人可以向他自己证明这一点…’

A fact should be provable to everyone.
‘fact/事实’对每一个人来说,都应该是可以被证实的。

Personally I see belief as nothing more than a current unproven theory someone tends to incorporate in there thinking as having some evidence to support it.
就我个人而言,我认为‘belief/信念’不过是一个当前尚未被证实的理论,有的人倾向于将其‘thinking/思想’融入其中,因为(他们)认为自己有一些证据来支持它。

The danger of belief is, people forget there belief is not proven, and start behaving as if there theory is actually a proven truth.
‘belief/信念’的危险之处在于,人们忘记了他们的‘belief/信念’是未被证实的,并开始就表现得…好像他们的理论是一个实际上已经被证实的‘truth/真理’那样。

Until it is actually proven to be true it always must remain in its proper category as ‘theory only’.
在它最终被证实是‘true/真实’的之前,它必须始终作为‘theory only/仅仅只是理论’而保持在其正确的范围之内。

What happens to us when we die ‘can not be experimented with or proven’ You have stated this twice in my conversations with you about Near Death Experiences.
‘What happens to us when we die/当我们死亡时会发生什么’…‘无法被验证或是证明’…您在我与您关于「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」的谈话中…曾两次说道这一点。

You also state, ‘if people having NDE’s are gaining new factual information’ while in the physical state of death; they could be gaining this information by intuition.
您还说道,‘如果经历过「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experiences/濒死体验」)的人…获得了new factual information/新的真实信息’,那么在‘physical state of death/物质死亡状态’下,他们是可以通过直觉获得这一信息的。

The definition of ‘intuition’ according to the dictionary is ‘the ability to acquire knowledge without inference or the use of reason’.
根据「Dictionary/字典」,「Intuition/直觉」的定义是…‘the ability to acquire knowledge without inference or the use of reason/在没有推理或使用理性的情况下…获得知识的能力’。

Inference is defined as ‘the act or process of deriving logical conclusions from premises known or assumed to be true’.
「Inference/推理」被定义为…‘the act or process of deriving logical conclusions from premises known or assumed to be true/从已知前提或假设真命题中…推导出逻辑性结论的…行为或过程’。

My 4 main points are
我的4个主要观点:

1. All facts and truth must be first processed as a belief and graduated into true factual knowledge once undeniable evidence is able to support it. It used to be believed, the world was flat. A few people ‘believed’ it was round. This was a belief that was proven to be fact. Many times you have stated a ‘belief can never be proven’. Some beliefs end up as provable fact.
1. 所有的‘facts/事实’和‘truth/真理’…都必须首先作为一种‘belief/信念’加以处理,一旦有不可否认的证据能够对其提供支持,就必须被标示为‘true factual knowledge/真正的真实知识’。在过去…人们相信世界是平的。而少数人则‘believed/相信’它是圆的。这就是一个被证实是‘fact/事实’的‘belief/信念’。您说过很多次…‘belief can never be proven/信念是永远无法被证实的’-[注](但…)有些‘beliefs/信念’最终还是成为了可被证实的‘fact/事实’。

利昂注释:在本案Q&A资讯中,未见Billy有过此段表述。

2. What ever proof you have about the death experience is proof that terrestrial humans probably can’t understand.
2. 您就‘death experience/死亡体验’给出的任何‘proof/证据’,都是‘terrestrial humans/地球人类’很可能无法理解的‘proof/证据’。

3. The death experience ‘CAN be experimented with and studied’. Study the experiences of those who have had NDE’s. The physical state of death can be carefully medically induced for short periods with volunteers to help gain further valuable evidence of the death experience. After being on the other side almost everyone comes back as a much better person. This is the value I see in this type of research. Your lifetime of good teaching does not affect people the way 5 minute on the other side does, unfortunately.
3. ‘death experience/死亡体验’是‘CAN be experimented with and studied/能够被验证并研究的’。研究那些‘experienced/经历’过「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人…的‘experiences/经历’。‘physical state of death/物质死亡状态’可以通过…志愿者在短时间内小心地借助医学手段…加以诱发,从而帮助获得关于‘death experience/死亡体验’的更进一步的、有价值证据。在到达‘the other side/另一边’之后,几乎每一个人都将作为一个更好的人…‘comes back/回来’。这就是我在此类研究中…所看到的价值。您毕生付出的艰苦教学,都抵不上…让人们呆在‘the other side/另一边’5分钟这种方式…所能带来的影响,这很可惜。

4. If a person who temporarily dies, gains new factual information that makes them a better person, it’s not important how they got the information. What’s important is, this new information makes them a much better person! Which again; is my main interest; in this type of research.
4. 如果一个人只是‘temporarily dies/暂时性死亡了’,但从中获得的‘new factual information/新的真实信息’能够使他们变成更好的人,那如何获得这些信息…就不那么重要了。重要的是,这些‘new information/新信息’能够使他们成为一个更好的人!这也再一次的,是我在此类研究中…主要的兴趣所在。

My question is:
我的问题是:

If 1000 people were placed in a temporary state of physical death and 900 of them came back with new factual information and an equal or greater, amount of them, came back as a remarkably better person, wouldn’t that be a valuable tool to help us evolve?
如果有1,000个人被置于一种暂时性的‘state of physical death/物质死亡状态’,其中有900个人‘came back/回来’并带回了‘new factual information/新的真实信息’,且他们中同等数量…或更多数量的人,作为一个令人出乎意料的、更好的人’came back/回来‘了,这难道不是一种帮助我们进化的…‘valuable tool/有价值工具’吗?

Kinda like a 5 minute microwave version of everything your trying to teach us!
这有点儿像…您想要教导给我们的一切事物的‘5 minute microwave version/5分钟微波版本’!

I do understand this type of research would involve considerable risk, but the accelerated evolution of who we are, seems quite relevant to the dangerously low level of evolution we are at right now.
我当然理解此类研究会涉及相当大的风险,但我们(究竟)是谁的加速「Evolution/进化」,似乎与我们当前所处的…危险且低水平的「Evolutio/进化」(水平)…密切相关。

Besides that, I see no reason why the other side should be hidden from me.
除此之外,我找不出任何…应该对我隐瞒‘the other side/另一边’事情…的理由。

Am I to stupid to process what I could learn there?
是不是我太过愚蠢,以至于无法处理…我能够在那边学到的东西呢?

I feel like I’m on a field trip to help others find love they can not see or feel or understand in the physical world.
我觉得我是在实地考察,从而帮助其他人找到…他们在「Physical World/物质世界」无法看到、感受到又或理解到的…「Love/爱」。

This is how someone builds real wealth as I see it
这就是我所看到的…某个人是如何创造真正财富的

If this is a repost of same question I asked earlier please disregard
如果这是一个我之前提问过的问题的装载,请忽略

Door_knocker
Door_knocker (post no.6)

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Your thought experiment is illogical.
你想的‘experiment/实验’并不符合逻辑。

Either a person is dead, or not.
一个人要么死了,要么没有。

You cannot place a person into a temporary state of physical death.
你不能将一个人置于一种临时性的‘state of physical death/物质死亡状态’。

Therefore, reports from near-death experiences (NDE) are always reports about the individuals’ thoughts, fanatasies etc.
因此,来自「Near-Death Experiences/濒死体验」(「NDE」)的报告,总是关于个人‘thoughts/想法’、‘fanatasies/幻想’等的报告。

When the brain is lacking oxygene, seeing a tunnel of light etc. is a normal effect.
当大脑缺氧时,看到一条‘tunnel of light/光隧道’等…是一种正常的结果。

And when people, who experienced a NDE, are seeing a situation from above, this has to do with an increased activity of the consciousness-powers as it is the case in the agony phase of a dying person.
而且,当‘experienced/经历过’一次「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人,从上述(情形中)中看到了某一种‘situation/情况’时,这与某种增长的「Consciousness-powers/意识能量」的活动有关,这就像是…一个身处痛楚期的将死之人…(所能‘experiences/体验’到)的‘case/情况’那样。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

Regarding your ‘I see no reason why the other side should be hidden from me’ I refer to the fact that you will arrive there sooner or later and then can make up your own mind.
关于你提到的‘I see no reason why the other side should be hidden from me/我找不出任何…应该对我隐瞒另一边事情…的理由’,我指的是:你迟早会到达那里,然后你可以自己做出决定。

Regarding your present life and your evolution it is absolutely irrelevant to know what ‘happens’ in the other world.
至于你当前的‘life/生活’和你的进化,这与…(知道‘the other world/另一个世界’…‘happens/发生’了什么)…是完全无关的。

It is a person’s thinking HERE in your present existence which is decisive regarding one’s path of evolution.
这是一个在你‘present existence/当世存在’-‘HERE/这里’的‘person’s thinking/个人的思想’,而该‘present existence/当世存在’…则是事关一个人(在当世)‘path of evolution/进化之路’的决定性的(因素)。

And since in the ‘other side/the other world there is no consciousness, there are also no thoughts present which you could see or feel etc.
且…因为在‘the other side/the other world/另一边/另一个世界’,并不存在「Consciousness/意识」,也不存在你能看到或感觉到(等)的…‘thoughts present/思想存在’。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Thank You again Billy for time you take to answer all questions put to you.
再次感谢您,Billy,谢谢您花时间…回答提给您的所有问题。

I have noticed that many questions that are asked of you; do not have much relevance to advancing the evolution of earth humans.
我有注意到:许多提给您的问题,都与推进‘earth humans/地球人类’的「Evolution/进化」…没有太大的关联。

My questions to you about NDE’s (Near Death Experiences) continue to occupy my thoughts as quite relevant to the evolution of earth humans.
我提给您的有关NDE(Near Death Experiences/濒死体验)的问题,一直占据着我的‘thoughts/思想’,因为它与‘earth humans/地球人类’的「Evolution/进化」密切相关。

In your last answer to me about this subject you said ‘Your thought experiment is illogical. Either a person is dead, or not. You cannot place a person into a temporary state of physical death.’
在您上一次就该话题给我的回复中,您说道‘你想的experiment/实验并不符合逻辑。一个人要么死了,要么没有。你不能将一个人置于一种暂时性的state of physical death/物质死亡状态’

Your answer makes me think you are either illogical or completely without understanding about what takes place during a NDE.
您的回答让我觉得…您要么不合逻辑,要么完全没有理解…在一次「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)中…(究竟)会发生什么。

Persons who have NDE are for short period of time; clinically, physically dead usually one hour or less; having either no heartbeat or no brain function.
经历过「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人…只会在短时间内经历这个过程;在临床上,‘physically dead/物理死亡’通常(要)一个小时或更短的时间;(这期间)既没有‘heartbeat/心跳’,也没有‘brain function/脑功能(运行)’。

They then, become alive again.
然后,他们又活了过来。

Thus your statement ‘that a person is dead or not’ is incorrect and not in line with reality concerning NDE’s.
因此,您关于‘一个人要么死了,要么没死’的说法…是不正确的,这并不符合关于「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的「Reality/现实」。

Our doctors can; and quite often; stop and restart someone’s heart for a variety of reasons for extended periods of time.
我们的医生,能够并经常会因为各种各样的原因,而延长…暂停和重启某人心脏…的时间间隙。

Therefore, when you say a person cannot be placed in a ‘temporary state of physical death’ it seems you are wrong or not understanding again.
因此,当您说…一个人不能被置于一种‘暂时性的物质死亡状态’时,似乎您是错的…又或是没有了解整件事。

This world is completely full of humans who do not even understand their need and inner urge to evolve.
这个世界充斥着甚至对他们自身的需求…和内在的进化渴望…都不了解的人。

All who have had a NDE, receive a profound ‘injection of evolution’ that increases their understanding of life many fold.
所有经历过一次「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人,都会收到一次深刻的‘injection of evolution/进化注能’,后者会几何倍地增加他们对‘life/生命’的理解。

How can you rationalize your statement to me: ‘Regarding your present life and your evolution it is absolutely irrelevant to know what ‘happens’ in the other world’ when it proves so valuable to the advanced evolution of all who go there.
当它被证实对…所有去过那里的人的高度进化…是如此有价值之时,您又如何能够对您回复我的…‘至于你当前的life/生活和你的进化,这与…(知道the other world/另一个世界…happens/发生了什么)…是完全无关的。’…这一表态,做出合理性的解释呢(?)。

The complete package of our evolutionary ‘to do list’ is in this other world.
我们进化的‘to do list/待办事项清单’的完整包,就在这‘other world/另一世界’里。

Examining our ‘to do list’ seems completely relevant and useful to this life and our future lives.
检查我们的‘to do list/待办事项清单’,看起来…与我们这一世的‘life/生命’和我们未来的‘lives/生活’,是完全相关…且有用的。

When I have a job to do I like to work hard and get it done so I can enjoy the fruits of my labor.
当我有工作要做的时候,我喜欢努力工作…并把它做好,这样,我就能享受‘the fruits of my labor/我的劳动果实’。

My number one purpose in this world is to free my fellow humans from illogical, irrational thought.
我在这个世界上的首要目标,是让我的‘fellow humans/人类同胞’从不合逻辑、不理性的‘thought/思想’中…解放出来。

Regarding this statement from you ‘Therefore, reports from near-death experiences (NDE) are always reports about the individuals’ thoughts, fanatasies etc. When the brain is lacking oxygene, seeing a tunnel of light etc. is a normal effect. And when people, who experienced a NDE, are seeing a situation from above, this has to do with an increased activity of the consciousness-powers as it is the case in the agony phase of a dying person.’
有关来自于您的这一表述,‘因此,来自「Near-Death Experiences/濒死体验」(「NDE」)的报告,总是关于个人thoughts/想法、fanatasies/幻想等的报告。当大脑缺氧时,看到一条tunnel of light/光隧道等…是一种正常的结果。而且,当experienced/经历过一次「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的人,从上述(情形中)中看到了某一种situation/情况时,这与某种增长的「Consciousness-powers/意识能量」的活动有关,这就像是…一个身处痛楚期的将死之人…(所能experiences/体验到)的case/情况那样。’

I can give you the name of a Doctor of Neurology who before her 28 minute NDE; in a kayak, while river rafting ; would have agreed with you completely on this point.
我可以给您提供一位「Doctor of Neurology/神经学医生」的名字,在她经历28分钟的「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)之前,当时她正在一只皮划艇上,在河面漂流,她会在这一点上…完全同意您的说法。

But after her 28 minute NDE, her opinion was changed forever.
但在她经历了28分钟的「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)之后,她的看法永远改变了。

She was told why she must return even though she did not want to return.
有人告诉她,为什么她必须‘return/返回’,即便她本人并不想要‘return/返回’。

She was also told many things that would happen in future that have all come true.
她还被告知了…许多将会在未来发生的事情,这些事后来也都成真了。

Your statement seems to rely heavily on earthly medical knowledge.
您的表述似乎在很大程度上依赖于「Earth/地球」上的‘medical knowledge/医学知识’。

This doctor will definitely say your opinion about this is in error and not in line with rational medical reality.
这位医生肯定会说…您有关于此的观点是错误的,并不符合理智的‘medical reality/医学现实’。

She says for a few minutes your scenario is possible, but not for 28 minutes.
她说,在几分钟之内…您的设想是有可能的,但这并不适用于28分钟。

Creating a perfectly logical and rational married relationship and planting that seed on earth has occupied my inner thoughts and outer actions all of my adult life.
创造一个完全合乎逻辑且理性的‘married relationship/婚姻关系’,并将这一种子深埋于「Earth/地球」之上,已经占据了我整个‘adult life/成年人生’的‘inner thoughts/内在想法’和‘outer actions/外在行动’。

It has been an arduous task.
这是一项艰巨的任务。

It is not enough that I should understand love so well, if my fellow humans can not share that understanding with me.
如果我的‘fellow humans/人类同胞’不能与我分享这种理解的话,那(只有)我自己该对「Love/爱」有如此深刻的理解…是远远不够的。

Quite naturally, I am looking to make the path of evolution easier for those who are left after I am gone from this lifetime.
很自然地,我在想办法为…那些在我离开人世后(尚)留在人世间的人们…寻找让‘path of evolution/进化之路’更轻松些的办法。

Your good work seems invisible to this world and having little or no impact.
您出色的工作对这个世界来说…似乎是无形的,几乎没有什么影响。

All factual evidence leads me to believe that recreating NDE’s is a possible and viable alternative to what you do, leading to the greater evolution of all of us.
所有的‘factual evidence/真实证据’…都引导我去‘believe/相信’:再创「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)…相较于您所做的来说…是一种‘possible and viable alternative/可能且可行的替代方案’,该方案将引导我们所有人实现更宏大的「Evolution/进化」。

I am wondering if after this, my final explanation of NDE’s, has your opinion changed in any way?
我想知道,在这之后,在我完成对「NDE」(即:「Near Death Experience/濒死体验」)的最终解释之后,您的观点是否有任何的改变呢?

One final point- One lady died from aids, her body was completely wasted away.
最后一点:一位女士死于「Aids/爱滋」,她的「Body/身体」被完全消耗掉了。

She was given the option to come back, when she came back her skin began to bubble from within and she was completely cured of aids.
她被给予了‘come back/回来’的选项,当她‘came back/回来’时,她的皮肤开始从内向外冒泡,(最终…)她完全治愈了「Aids/爱滋」。

Was this also a result of her ‘thoughts, fantasies etc.’?
这也是一种…她‘thoughts/想法、fantasies/幻想等’…的结果吗?

Is her story a fake or is it real?
她的故事是虚假的,还是真实的呢?

How would you know if you’ve never researched these events?
如果您从未调查过这些事,您又如何知道答案呢?

Your work has always enlightened me.
您的工作一直在启发我。

You share information with us that no one else knows or would share, even if they knew.
您和我们分享那些…(没有其他人知道…又或即使他们知道,他们也不会去分享)…的信息。

I can only wonder what part of your knowledge base would receive a profound ‘evolution boost’ if you were able to visit the other side.
我只能‘wonder/诧异’于…您‘knowledge base/知识库’的哪一部分,会接收到一种深奥的‘evolution boost/进化激励’呢(?),如果您有能力探访‘the other side/另一边’的话。

Thank You.
谢谢您。

Door_knocker
Door_knocker (post no.7)

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Obviously you have a strong belief and cannot or will not face and accept reality.
显然,你有一个强烈的‘belief/信念’,并不能…也不会去面对和接受「Reality/现实」。

Therefore it makes no sense to continue presenting the truth to you.
因此,继续向你展现「Truth/真理」…是毫无意义的。

Btw:
顺便说一句:

Believing means stagnation.
‘Believing/信仰’…意味着停滞不前。

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