资讯源头：FIGU/ ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier
资讯主题：FIGU论坛问答 之 “New World Order”
资讯来源：｢FIGU Forum｣
http://forum.figu.org/..（资讯链接随问题注释）
内容中译：Leonkidz
校译日期：2019年06月20日，周四
推送类型：中文域-[中译]
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资讯注释：FIGU论坛上的回复不一定都是Billy本人做出的，也有可能是经由「Semjase Silver Star Center/Semjase银星中心」的核心小组成员转达Billy的意思；又或依据Billy的教导和解释做出的说明。
- 发布时间：2002年05月29日，周三，14:01
- 发布链接：｢FIGU Forum｣
- http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/2686.html
Question:
论坛上的提问：
Hi Billy,
嗨，Billy，
I was wondering if you are familiar with the theories behind the so-called New World Order?
我想知道您对…隐藏在所谓「New World Order/新世界秩序」幕后的…理论，是否熟悉？
Part of the theory is as follows.
该理论的部分阐述如下。
Secret and not so secret groups and organizations are united in trying to create a One World Government, that will be secretly governed by them, while at the same time making it seem Democratic to the rest of the world.
那些秘密的以及并非如此秘密的团体和组织联合在一起，试图创建一个「One World Government/世界一统政府」，并由他们秘密地统治，但与此同时，又使其看起来对世界上的其它地方…显得「Democratic/民主」。
Is There anything you can say about these groups.
您能针对这些团体…谈谈您对此的看法吗？
Thank You,
谢谢您，
Norm
Norm
Answer:
来自FIGU的回复：
Hi Norm,
嗨，Norm，
This is nonsense.
这是胡说八道。
It is the imaginary work of people who are trying to make money by writing fantastic books about something that is not true.
这是那些试图通过写一些关于不真实事物的奇闻异事…从中赚取金钱的人，所虚构出来的东西。
They are claims and theories only.
他们只会提出（这种）主张和理论。
- 发布时间：2002年08月26日，周一，06:25
- 发布链接：｢FIGU Forum｣
- http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/2686.html
Question:
论坛上的提问：
Hi Billy,
嗨，Billy,
In a follow-up question to my last question on the New World Order, I need to ask you what the following meant, as it relates to a secret and not so secret World Government?
在我上一个关于「New World Order/新世界秩序」问题的后续问题中，我想问您如下（这些阐述）是指什么，因为它涉及到一个秘密但又并非如此秘密的「World Government/世界政府」？
If there is no New World Order then what were these statements about?
如果没有什么「New World Order/新世界秩序」的话，那这些阐述…又是关于什么的呢？
——During the 232nd contact of November 17th 1989:
在1989年11月17日的…第232次「Contact/接触」期间：
Ptaah: ‘we have refrained from contacts with Americans, and will do so forever, unless it should happen that this nation and its government and secret government’.
Ptaah：‘我们已经避免与「Americans/美国人」进行「Contacts/接触」，并将永远这么做，除非这个「Nation/国家」及其「Government/政府」和secret government/秘密政府…才应该发生这种情况。’
Later in that same contact its states
之后，在同一次「接触」中，又阐述道…
‘those who are guided by religious sects or governments with plans aiming at world dominance, as is the case also with certain terrestrial organizations that strive for world dominance.’
‘那些被…（religious sects/宗教宗派…或者有计划成为world dominance/世界主宰的「Governments/政府」）…所引导的组织，与某些致力于world dominance/主宰世界的certain terrestrial organizations/特定地球组织，是一样的。’
——In the book AN OPEN WORD verse 1369 it states the following.
在「AN OPEN WORD/公开话」一书中，第1369节，有如下阐述。
‘During the New Age of the future 20th and 21st centuries the destructive beast bearing the number 666 would become active, that is, religious cults, unequal sects as well as secret organizations, would flood the entire mankind with their sectarian madness in delusional beliefs.’
‘在未来20世纪和21世纪的「New Age/新时代」，承载着数字666的‘destructive beast/毁灭性野兽’，也即‘religious cults/宗教崇拜’、‘unequal sects/不平等宗派’以及‘secret organizations/秘密组织’，将变得活跃，并在妄想的‘beliefs/信仰’中…以其宗派主义的疯狂…淹没整个「Mankind/人类」。’
——Contact 241:
在第241次「Contact/接触」中：
Ptaah: ‘They can generally be found in religious sectarian or world-reformist circles and circles of liars and frauds in matters pertaining to so-called contacts to alien beings, etc. The same applies to circles of channelers, mediums, Illuminati, among others.’
Ptaah：‘这些人通常可以在…（religious sectarian/宗教宗派主义者…或是world-reformist circles/世界改良派圈子，以及所谓与alien beings/外星生命「Contacts/接触」等相关事情上…说谎和欺诈的…说谎者和骗子圈子里）…找到。这种同样适用于…channelers/通灵者圈子、mediums/灵媒圈子、「Illuminati/光明会」和其它圈子。’
Norm
Norm
Answer:
来自FIGU的回复：
Hi Norm,
嗨，Norm，
‘Secret Government’ means organizations like the CIA, NSA, etc. etc.
‘Secret Government/秘密政府’指的是像「CIA/中央情报局」、「NSA/国家安全局」等这样的组织。
‘Certain terrestrial organizations’ means certain governmental organizations/parts.
‘Certain terrestrial organizations/特定地球组织’，是指特定的‘governmental organizations/parts/政府性组织/部门’。
In Contact 241: UFO sects, etc. etc.
在第241次「Contact/接触」中，则是指‘UFO sects/不明飞行物教派’等等。
- 发布时间：2007年07月30日，周一，09:04
- 发布链接：｢FIGU Forum｣
- http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7647.html
- 提问链接：｢FIGU Forum｣
- http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7647.html
- (Note: on the same page.)
Question:
论坛上的提问：
Dear Billy,
亲爱的BIlly，
You claim that people made up the New World Order to sell books.
您声称：有人为了卖书…而编造了「New World Order/新世界秩序」。
Would you please comment on theses quotes from David Rockefeller whose from one of the richest families in the world.
能否请您评价一下这些援引自「David Rockefeller」的表述呢（如下），后者来自世界上最富有的家族之一。
‘Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.’
——-David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
‘有些人甚至相信我们（‘the Rockefeller family/Rockefeller家族’）是某个对抗「United States/美国」最大化利益的秘密「Cabal/政治阴谋小集团」的一部分，并把我的家庭和我本人刻画成‘「Internationalists/国际主义者」’，与世界各地的其他人通力合作，以建立一个更加整合的全球性政治和经济结构，‘one world/同一世界’，如果你想这么叫的话。如果这就是指控，那我有罪，但我为此感到自豪。’
——David Rockefeller，回忆录，第405页
‘We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.’
——-David Rockefeller, at a 1991 Bilderberger meeting
‘我们感谢「The Washington Post/华盛顿邮报」、「The New York Times纽约时报」、「Time Magazine/时代周刊」和其它伟大的出版社，这些出版社的董事们参加了我们的会议，并恪守了他们…维系了近40年的…（有关）自由裁量权的承诺。如果在那些年中…我们一直受制于传媒业的聚光灯，那我们就不可能制定出…我们的世界计划。但如今的世界正变得更为巧妙复杂，并准备好迈向一个‘world government/世界性的政府’。知识精英和世界银行家把握在手中的、超越国家层面的最高统治权，肯定要比…在过去几个世纪中实行的国家自主决策…更为可取。’
——David Rockefeller，1991年，于「Bilderberger/布里辛斯基」会议
‘We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.’
——-David Rockefeller
‘我们正处在一个全球性转型的边缘。我们所需要的，是正确的‘major crisis/重大危机’，以及各国会接受「New World Order/新世界秩序」。’
——David Rockefeller
‘But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence.’
——-David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994
‘但当下的这个…（可以塑造出一个真正和平且相互依存的…‘world order/世界秩序’的）…机会之窗，并不会长久地开启。已经有强大的力量，在着手威胁要摧毁我们所有…建立一个全球相互依存的持久结构…的希望和努力。’
——David Rockefeller，1994年09月14日，在「United Nations/联合国」-「Business Council/商务理事会」上的发言
Norm
Norm
Answer:
来自FIGU的回复：
The meaning of the statement was that many authors of conspiracy books are writing in order to sell books, among other motives of course.
该声明的意思是：许多阴谋（论）书籍的作者，都是为了卖书而写作的，当然，还有其它动机。
Basically, uniting the world is a positive goal, as is the case with a new world order (depending what is meant with this term, of course).
基本上，把世界联合在一起…是一个积极的目标，就像「New World Order/新世界秩序」的情况也是如此（当然，这取决于这个术语的所指）。
Regarding the quotes:
关于引述：
Are you sure that quotes #2 and 3 are really authentic?
你确定第2条和第3条引述，真是援引自当事者的吗？
Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释：
David Rockefeller’s motives to write his memoirs are probably not to earn money, but to preserve his thoughts and actions for other people to read.
「David Rockefeller」撰写其回忆录的动机…很可能并不是为了赚钱，而是为了把他的想法和行动保存下来，供他人阅读。
If a new ‘world order’ would be founded on the spiritual teachings, which is not very probable in the near future, much good would result.
如果一个新的‘「world order/世界秩序」’是建立在「Spiritual Teachings/精神教义」之上的（虽然这在不久的将来，不太可能会发生），则会有很多好的结果产生。
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